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bespoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our difference is worldwide would vanish

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is faded black with your host jimmy

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church on the game changer radio network

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i need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fate to flag with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening

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1st 2021

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304 days into the new year only 61 days

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of nowhere

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a total undisclosed location

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but it is beautiful in here

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how you doing i would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer network and an x

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the x network premiering tonight

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everybody out there

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want to thank margy k

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it's the start of a new era

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and we're gonna do it tonight with very

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john warner iv

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john one of the four that joins us for

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he is here to discuss

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hidden history the global elite

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and ufos we're going to be doing all of

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that tonight with john i am so excited

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about this show what a way to kick

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things off on nx tomorrow night director

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roger r richards is here

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here to announce his new film it is

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called the observers

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and uh we've got the launch date we've

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got all the background on the movie uh

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his vision for this film major release

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uh coming up this month in november

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um the observers and extraordinary the

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i'm very honored uh to be a part of both

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and of course narrating uh extraordinary

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the the revelations uh with j3 films

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and the observers um

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not only roger richards uh producing

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is tomorrow night with roger r richards

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wednesday night paula harris is back

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with this and we are going to discuss

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the international view of disclosure and

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international take on things is what the

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conference is all about and that

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conference is coming up i'm going to be

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there and then thursday night

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is another fader night with open lines

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all night long now uh the star works

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paula's uh conference star works usa

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ufos all above and beyond is november

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12th through the 14th it's in laughlin

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nevada at the aquarius hotel and casino

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and i'm going to be there we're going to

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do fade to black live

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on stage that's going to be great

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jacques valet and paul heineck and grant

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um a really nice gala dinner is uh going

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to go down oh i've got to pick out the

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yeah tickets and info

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starworksusa.com you can follow me uh

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we'll see you in laughlin all right

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everybody can follow me on twitter at j

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audience and and your support because we

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um i think it's uh radio news or or one

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radio websites that list all the

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very cool thank you fader knots are the

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now we're gonna get to the breaking news

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and i'm going to start with this

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there are issues with the toilet

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on board spacex's crew dragon capsule

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spacecraft's toilet last month while

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that a tube used to funnel urine

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this article came out today this press

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release that on the onboard the iss they

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were able to grow green chili peppers

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in space and so to celebrate

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all of the astronauts ate tacos

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i'm gonna leave that right there all

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right and now also in more spacex tesla

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elon musk has offered to sell some of

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right now quote according to him

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if the united nations can prove that six

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billion dollars will solve world hunger

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program the wfp director david beasley

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and he said and i quote step up now

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if wfp can describe on this twitter

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let's get the show cracking

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happy birthday to today

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love me some ketus

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the world's best one-armed drummer

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i'm not kidding rick allen today is 58

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years old sophie b hawkins today is 57

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when she had that hit damn i wish i was

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uh i was working at alesis and she

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haven't talked to her many years but

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today she's 57.

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bo bice

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remember bob ice remember bob ice

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and he had those pipes he came in number

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he came in number two uh bob ice today

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is 46 years old our dead guy's birthday

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today is jim steinman 1947 to 2021

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died at the age of 73 jim he was a

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composer a lyricist a record producer

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he also worked as an arranger a pianist

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but he is best known for his partnership

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he wrote all of meatloaf's bat out of

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hell one of the best selling albums in

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and producing albums for bonnie tyler

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anything for love but i won't do that

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jim steinman

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happy birthday

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jim steinman on this day in history otd

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bomb

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an enemy at all in the pacific on this

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day in 1952

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check this one out

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love this

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according to greek mythology

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humans

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once had

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two heads

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four arms

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and four legs

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that's right

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and then zeus stepped in

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and decided

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to split humans in half

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that's right

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true story

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there you go that's your favorite fact

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i i never knew that

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found that out today and it's so great

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when when i'm researching subjects

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and uh you know ufos and

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uaps and

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bigfoot you know and i'm doing my

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research all day long and i stumble into

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humans once had two heads

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and you know he's like that's that's a

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fader fact

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right there zeus

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river moon coffee and i just hit river

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moon coffee three times

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three times um i had a friend uh lisa

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reed

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uh came over to the house yesterday

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and one of my oldest friends in the

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world and i love her to death she's

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great

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and uh helped me hand out uh

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candy

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and

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the annex networks uh you know uh

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premiere party uh pre-premiere party uh

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it's a premiere party did that last

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night i said hey

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you got to come in and and

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and and do the show with me she said no

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i said yeah so we set her up a

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microphone

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got got the headset rolled in a chair

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and she sat right here but this is the

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deal

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i'm not making this up so uh before she

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goes

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where's my river moon coffee

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it looks like it's right here

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well a cup yeah i'm going live on the

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air i need my river moon coffee

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so uh yeah that happened yesterday that

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was cool

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all right

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um river moon coffee river moon

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wellness.com the links are right below

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you can go and click head over to river

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moon wellness all of our really cool

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products are over there uh fade to black

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black moon

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all of the stuff you need is right there

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john warner is on the show tonight john

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warner iv

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and uh been following john for a long

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time

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and i'm not going to discuss this with

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him tonight but uh we're

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the two of us are part of a

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little uh

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secret email group thing and we hang out

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and share ideas there and he's one of

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them

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and uh

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and i follow the thread and i follow the

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comments and and uh

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the insight there's a lot of uh science

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and geopolitics and

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and and things that go down there uh

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centrally around the ufo issue uaps

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propulsion systems it's very interesting

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uh group of people

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and uh

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i i've followed john for a long time

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and and his pedigree and we're gonna

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talk about all of that in a few minutes

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when he comes on the show but it got me

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thinking

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and

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there is

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in

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you know of course we have the planet

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but when

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especially what's going on right now we

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take a really

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hard look at corporate america

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and in washington dc and the military

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industrial complex the mic

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and and the implications of of uaps and

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ufos and et and contact and who knows

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what and

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and you really take a hard look at that

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and

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it's always been

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from our view

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our view the ufo community been

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researching this and staying on top of

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this and

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and and paperwork and trails and

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documents and freedom of information act

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and whistleblowers and leaks and videos

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and hell man we've been doing this for a

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long time but

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washington's take and the corporate take

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has always been

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our revelations

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what

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washington has ever been our friend

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ever

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they have fought us on the ufo subject

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uh since 1947

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uh and that has been painfully clear and

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obvious

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things have changed for the last four

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and i think we've kind of lost sight

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of some of the things that have been

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said especially

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recently

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i think we've kind of lost out of that

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because we are in a crazy news cycle

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things are being revealed every single

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day not only uh with ufo but it's

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everything in society everything in the

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world all world events it is by the

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second updated and this news i've talked

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about this many times on the show

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is flooding into us from all angles and

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we're doing everything we can to keep up

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with the information information comes

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at us from all angles and it doesn't

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matter if it's education health

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employment money banking

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military uh politics elections uh the

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weather what if it's just

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sports

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fashion

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entertainment

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just coming at you constantly

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you still have a life you have a family

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you have to eat

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you have to do things

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00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:23,440
meanwhile squeeze everything else and

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how do you have time to watch a movie

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how do you have time to do anything

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these days

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when all of this information is coming

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at you i didn't even mention social

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media

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and

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last week i had mentioned uh nasa's bill

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nelson

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and his recent 10-minute disclosure

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conversation that he had with the

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university of virginia back on october

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19th

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today is november first this was less

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than two weeks ago this is fresh

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and those 10 minutes

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were some of the most compelling words i

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have heard recently when it comes to the

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et ufo uap question that has been front

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and center for the last four years

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but

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we have forgotten i have and if i have i

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know you have

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we have forgotten about the long list of

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00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:18,400
names out of washington dc then i've

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also gone on the record about it

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and i'm not talking about lou elizondo

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so much has happened and so many have

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opened up about ufos that with the

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current climate of this new cycle that i

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keep talking about well

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sometimes things just get lost in the

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mix

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they do

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so it's time for a little bit of a

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refresher course

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let me remind you

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of a few things that have happened

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recently

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bill clinton

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was asked about the military's recent

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00:25:07,990 --> 00:25:05,279
encounters with mysterious craft

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and and bill brought up the size of the

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universe

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and the high probability of life

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existing out there then right after that

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we got barack obama

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he spoke about the implications of

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recent uap incidents involving e.t

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right he was like maybe right

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and i want you to remember something

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both clinton

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and obama

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retain access to top level intelligence

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briefings

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so what is it that they know what is it

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that they knew going into this and now

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the intelligence briefings are coming

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out they get to look at that

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and they make these statements

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it makes you wonder it's never been like

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this before

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now recently

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former cia director john brennan

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speculated that the objects might and i

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quote i'm going to do a lot of quotes

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here

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and i quote he said

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they constitute a different form of life

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and he continued with

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it's a bit presumptuous and arrogant for

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us to believe that there's no other life

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form anywhere in the entire universe end

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we can't forget these things

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now check this out that's a former cia

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because right after that another

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former cia director

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james woolsey

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long time ufo skeptic by the way

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it's an incredible video to watch

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but he recently signaled an openness to

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the possibility that uap encounters

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might be

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extraterrestrial intelligence

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that's two former cia directors

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then we have john ratcliffe

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former president trump's director of

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national intelligence

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and and john has no problem

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00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:14,720
talking about ufos

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00:27:19,350 --> 00:27:16,640
in a series of interviews radcliffe

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ruled out a secret u.s technology

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and he cited

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high confidence again quoting high

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confidence

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intelligence assessments to eliminate

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00:27:29,909 --> 00:27:27,840
foreign adversaries as possible

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00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:29,919
explanations for the most compelling ufo

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00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:30,960
encounters

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and according to radcliffe some ufos

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exhibit and again i quote

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technologies that we don't have and

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00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:41,520
frankly that we are not capable of

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00:27:46,789 --> 00:27:43,760
defending against

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woolsey and brennan are not the only

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00:27:53,909 --> 00:27:51,600
directors of the cia to speak openly

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00:27:56,149 --> 00:27:53,919
about ufos as a matter of fact

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00:27:59,110 --> 00:27:56,159
it goes all the way back to when the cia

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00:28:02,070 --> 00:27:59,120
was first put into operation in 1947

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00:28:05,909 --> 00:28:02,080
when vice admiral roscoe hillenkeller

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the first director of the cia

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said and once again i quote

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through official secrecy and ridicule

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00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:14,000
many citizens are led to believe ufos

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00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:15,360
are nonsense

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00:28:20,789 --> 00:28:18,240
behind the scenes however

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00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:20,799
high-ranking air force officers are

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soberly concerned

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end quote

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in june 2021

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00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:31,039
florida center senator marco rubio said

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this once again a direct quote

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men and women have been entrusted with

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the defense of our country are reporting

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00:28:42,830 --> 00:28:41,200
encounters with unidentified aircraft

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00:28:45,750 --> 00:28:42,840
with superior

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00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:45,760
capabilities we cannot allow the stigma

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00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:47,440
of ufos

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00:28:52,470 --> 00:28:48,880
to keep us

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00:28:54,549 --> 00:28:52,480
from seriously investigating this

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00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:54,559
end quote

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now

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also back in june utah senator mitt

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romney

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00:29:04,789 --> 00:29:02,000
said that he does not believe the uap

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task force report describes objects from

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foreign adversaries saying

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and i love this and it's another quote

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i know they are they say

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trillions of galaxies out there so who

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knows what might have developed

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somewhere else

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end quote

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andre carson a democrat from indiana

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also on the senate intelligence

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committee

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is asking for a public hearing on the

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subject something that hasn't happened

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since 1966

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and back then it was at the request of

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gerald ford then the house minority

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leader

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it's incredible what's going on today

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and apparently

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it's the only matter left

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which

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agree on right now and that's ufos

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and et's

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now

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as i as i think about john warner uh

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coming on the show tonight and and his

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knowledge

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and what he's been exposed to again

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we'll get to all of that with john in

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just uh two short minutes

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but

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i know

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that there are two worlds out there

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there are two

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and there is one that is completely

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secret and there is one that is

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okay with talking to the public

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both of them live in washington dc

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and that first world has always won

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now the second world is starting to

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wrestle power

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and they're starting to get a hold of

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this in a foothold

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and now it appears

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that washington

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is our friend

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and i talk about this all how can this

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be

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do we stay with building trust

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00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:03,200
before we go all in what is the agenda

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what do they know and why are they doing

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it now

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i can't think of anybody better than

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john warner the fourth to come on this

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show and answer these very important

634
00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:14,880
questions

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i'm your host jimmy church this is fade

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to block

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tonight john warner iv

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we are going to be discussing

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the hidden history of the united states

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the power elite of the world and of

641
00:31:30,870 --> 00:31:29,760
course how all of that ties into the ufo

642
00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:30,880
question

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tomorrow night roger r richards is here

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to announce his new film the observers

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wednesday night paola harris

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she's back the international take on

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disclosure and then thursday nights

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another fader night with open lines all

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night long i'm your host jimmy church

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chris what up this jimmychurchradio.com

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jimmy church radio

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welcome back fade to black i'm real

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jimmy church what a great week

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launching on the on x network uh which

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is premiering this evening very cool

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tonight very special guest john warner

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the fourth

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tomorrow night director roger r richards

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is here and then wednesday night paula

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harris

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thursday night's another fader night

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with open lines all night long tonight

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john warner the fourth joins us and he's

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here for the first time

765
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:31,359
to discuss hidden history global power

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and the current agenda of disclosure and

767
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the technology behind ufo's new aps

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00:37:41,030 --> 00:37:38,800
he's an author he's a historian with a

769
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passion for hidden history revisionist

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00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:43,680
historical narratives and

771
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vintage cars oh look out we're supposed

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to talk ufos tonight

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00:37:51,349 --> 00:37:50,320
oh man we're gonna go into the pedigree

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00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:51,359
of

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00:38:00,069 --> 00:37:54,240
porsches and uh

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00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:00,079
ford gt350 mustang shelby 1966 fastback

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00:38:04,550 --> 00:38:02,640
the best car ever he's been a skeptic

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00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:04,560
about historical records including

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00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:07,200
textbooks for over 30 years with a

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00:38:13,510 --> 00:38:09,599
perspective that's been well honed his

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00:38:15,109 --> 00:38:13,520
father five-term u.s senator john w

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warner the third

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00:38:19,109 --> 00:38:17,200
out of virginia was also secretary of

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the navy and chairman of the armed

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services committee during the vietnam

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war

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john's mother catherine mellon

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daughter of philanthropist paul mellon

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was an activist who protested that war

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she taught him to question authority

791
00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:34,480
that's right think independently and to

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speak his mind john has been behind the

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scenes with some of the most powerful

794
00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:40,720
and influential people in the united

795
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states and global history

796
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:46,079
in his historical novels little anton in

797
00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:49,200
the sequel lion tiger bear he discloses

798
00:38:53,829 --> 00:38:50,880
the shocking hidden history

799
00:38:56,550 --> 00:38:53,839
possibilities of advanced technology and

800
00:38:58,670 --> 00:38:56,560
the covert schemes of the fascist power

801
00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:58,680
elite his website is right there

802
00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:00,400
jimmychurchradio.com we've got the links

803
00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:02,880
up in social media john warner the

804
00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:05,359
fourth author dot com and i would like

805
00:39:09,910 --> 00:39:07,760
to welcome the verse on to fade to black

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00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:09,920
john warner and you know

807
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:12,480
can i leave the fourth off john

808
00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:15,839
good evening uh you can

809
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:18,320
um as far as i know i'm the only john

810
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:21,040
william warner the fourth in the world

811
00:39:24,069 --> 00:39:22,320
but you never know there's always an

812
00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:24,079
imposter out there somewhere

813
00:39:28,870 --> 00:39:26,640
you got to keep the fourth going my man

814
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:28,880
there's a lot of john warner's you know

815
00:39:33,829 --> 00:39:31,440
yeah yeah anarchists and horse horse

816
00:39:40,550 --> 00:39:37,109
i um uh i've been following uh your work

817
00:39:43,349 --> 00:39:40,560
for a long time and uh always very

818
00:39:45,829 --> 00:39:43,359
interesting and your takes on things

819
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:45,839
always you know makes me stop and think

820
00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:48,480
um but there's one thing that i want to

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mention uh to the audience out of the

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00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:52,000
gate

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00:39:57,109 --> 00:39:54,880
um you've kind of got the best of both

824
00:40:00,390 --> 00:39:57,119
worlds when it comes to pedigree

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00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:00,400
and insight you're a warner

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and you're a melon right

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and you look at it from those terms and

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00:40:12,069 --> 00:40:09,200
uh to have you on the show that we can

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discuss things uh quite openly

830
00:40:16,630 --> 00:40:14,880
that's the background and and i need the

831
00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:16,640
audience to be very clear when they

832
00:40:19,910 --> 00:40:17,760
understand

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00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:19,920
uh where you're coming from

834
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that you have these two amazing

835
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pedigrees and that must have been a

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crazy life and a fun way to grow up

837
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:31,200
uh it definitely had its challenges um

838
00:40:34,309 --> 00:40:32,640
you know my father was secretary of the

839
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navy and then chairman of the

840
00:40:38,790 --> 00:40:36,640
bicentennial administration then he was

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a senator for 30 years and he was also

842
00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:40,480
married to liz taylor

843
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uh so it would

844
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it was a little unusual my you know my

845
00:40:48,470 --> 00:40:46,480
mother was kind of a hippie and uh

846
00:40:50,309 --> 00:40:48,480
you know they their marriage blew up

847
00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:50,319
over the vietnam war

848
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:52,640
um they made us watch the news every

849
00:40:56,790 --> 00:40:54,640
single night and i'm glad they did but

850
00:40:58,710 --> 00:40:56,800
they argued like cats and dogs and

851
00:41:00,550 --> 00:40:58,720
scratched their eyes out and

852
00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:00,560
um but then they became good friends

853
00:41:04,470 --> 00:41:02,640
afterwards but uh you know my mom always

854
00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:04,480
told me you know vietnam's a sham and

855
00:41:07,750 --> 00:41:06,720
gulf of tonkin is you know false flag

856
00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:07,760
operation

857
00:41:10,950 --> 00:41:09,200
she was right

858
00:41:12,870 --> 00:41:10,960
you know i was like really it seems like

859
00:41:15,430 --> 00:41:12,880
a great war and dad you know i was a

860
00:41:17,349 --> 00:41:15,440
little kid you know right man of nixon

861
00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:17,359
nixon was a family friend you know he'd

862
00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:19,520
come over for dinner and stuff and so

863
00:41:24,309 --> 00:41:21,599
this was all sort of how i grew up and

864
00:41:25,829 --> 00:41:24,319
dc is a small town you know

865
00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:25,839
if you go to the national cathedral

866
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:28,640
schools you know all the ambassadors and

867
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:31,200
senators and military kids all go there

868
00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:33,280
we just grow up like my one of my good

869
00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:35,599
friends is susan rice who worked you

870
00:41:40,710 --> 00:41:37,440
know with obama

871
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:40,720
um and others you know it's it's very

872
00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:41,760
interesting you know i have a friend

873
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:43,200
who's a federal judge and i have a

874
00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:45,680
friend who's in you know retired

875
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:47,760
office of naval intelligence navy

876
00:41:52,470 --> 00:41:50,400
captain my friend daniel and uh we've

877
00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:52,480
had many conversations about ufo

878
00:41:57,990 --> 00:41:54,880
technology over the years

879
00:41:59,430 --> 00:41:58,000
and you know my wife is xcia and you

880
00:42:01,190 --> 00:41:59,440
know i've got a lot of friends that i

881
00:42:03,670 --> 00:42:01,200
know in town and you know the funny

882
00:42:06,230 --> 00:42:03,680
thing is the whole ufo thing is kind of

883
00:42:08,470 --> 00:42:06,240
a joke if you go to cocktail parties you

884
00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:08,480
know half the intel people are in on the

885
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:10,079
game and half of them are like gosh i

886
00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:12,000
don't even know what to think

887
00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:16,000
and so it's kind of funny that way um

888
00:42:21,990 --> 00:42:18,079
i want to circle back to two things uh

889
00:42:24,309 --> 00:42:22,000
one the cia uh which is central to what

890
00:42:26,069 --> 00:42:24,319
we'll be talking about tonight for sure

891
00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:26,079
but i got to talk about liz taylor for a

892
00:42:29,829 --> 00:42:27,440
second

893
00:42:32,150 --> 00:42:29,839
let's not let that blow past it i just

894
00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:32,160
knew it yeah

895
00:42:36,790 --> 00:42:34,960
she she was your stepmom for a little

896
00:42:37,910 --> 00:42:36,800
bit she's a great person i loved her

897
00:42:41,190 --> 00:42:37,920
very much

898
00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:41,200
um she uh believed in ufos and ets and

899
00:42:44,230 --> 00:42:42,480
all that right

900
00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:44,240
she had seen one with eddie fisher off

901
00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:46,960
the coast of california in the late 50s

902
00:42:51,990 --> 00:42:49,520
and you know there was i tell the story

903
00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:52,000
you know i was 14 and i was with my best

904
00:42:55,670 --> 00:42:53,920
friends we were smoking pot with

905
00:42:57,750 --> 00:42:55,680
elizabeth in the kitchen and my dad

906
00:43:00,309 --> 00:42:57,760
comes home and we're discussing you know

907
00:43:02,230 --> 00:43:00,319
ufos and national security and you know

908
00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:02,240
project blue book and all this crap you

909
00:43:07,109 --> 00:43:05,440
know them not disclosing it and why this

910
00:43:09,270 --> 00:43:07,119
is 1978

911
00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:09,280
and my dad comes home you know and and

912
00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:12,319
she lets into him you know you know why

913
00:43:15,990 --> 00:43:14,000
you being such an old fuddy duddy you

914
00:43:18,309 --> 00:43:16,000
know and my dad just explodes he's like

915
00:43:19,109 --> 00:43:18,319
you know god wouldn't let this happen

916
00:43:22,710 --> 00:43:19,119
you know

917
00:43:24,790 --> 00:43:22,720
in the universe and

918
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:24,800
i know why he was angry because he he

919
00:43:29,270 --> 00:43:27,440
actually knew the truth because uh i

920
00:43:31,430 --> 00:43:29,280
used to read his top secret briefings

921
00:43:32,630 --> 00:43:31,440
when i was a little kid on his desk

922
00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:32,640
and he was involved when he was

923
00:43:35,990 --> 00:43:34,319
secretary of navy in operation deep

924
00:43:37,910 --> 00:43:36,000
freeze in antarctica

925
00:43:39,910 --> 00:43:37,920
and iowa had pepper you know i was a

926
00:43:41,349 --> 00:43:39,920
mischievous clever kid and i was like

927
00:43:43,349 --> 00:43:41,359
come on dad

928
00:43:45,030 --> 00:43:43,359
uh tell me what's going on in antarctica

929
00:43:47,510 --> 00:43:45,040
because i knew about the cold war and i

930
00:43:48,470 --> 00:43:47,520
was already into military history

931
00:43:50,710 --> 00:43:48,480
right

932
00:43:52,309 --> 00:43:50,720
and then when i was 14 i was with him in

933
00:43:54,069 --> 00:43:52,319
switzerland and he had a few drinks one

934
00:43:56,309 --> 00:43:54,079
night with liz and uh they had an

935
00:43:57,430 --> 00:43:56,319
argument so he and i went walking into

936
00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:57,440
the night

937
00:44:00,630 --> 00:43:59,200
and i said come on dad

938
00:44:02,390 --> 00:44:00,640
tell me what's going on down in

939
00:44:05,270 --> 00:44:02,400
antarctica with operation deep freeze

940
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:05,280
which is still going on by the way

941
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:07,280
and he said well you know russians got

942
00:44:11,670 --> 00:44:09,760
their bases we need ours you know we

943
00:44:13,750 --> 00:44:11,680
probably have a few missile silos down

944
00:44:16,470 --> 00:44:13,760
there you know they have theirs

945
00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:16,480
i said why so far away

946
00:44:20,870 --> 00:44:18,240
you know i knew that it was you know 50

947
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:20,880
below every day it's a harsh environment

948
00:44:23,430 --> 00:44:22,480
and he looked up at the night sky and he

949
00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:23,440
pointed

950
00:44:28,150 --> 00:44:25,280
it was a beautiful clear night with

951
00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:28,160
stars he said space operations

952
00:44:30,870 --> 00:44:29,040
wow

953
00:44:32,309 --> 00:44:30,880
now i didn't i didn't think anything of

954
00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:32,319
it i thought you know okay satellite

955
00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:34,720
stuff right right maybe the

956
00:44:39,670 --> 00:44:36,960
the old space station you know that they

957
00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:39,680
had up there in the 70s

958
00:44:43,750 --> 00:44:40,800
oh no

959
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:43,760
because fast forward um

960
00:44:48,630 --> 00:44:46,480
in 93 i presented him a racing buddy in

961
00:44:50,710 --> 00:44:48,640
california we were racing out there and

962
00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:50,720
he said my father's in the aerospace

963
00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:52,319
industry and i was like oh tell me about

964
00:44:55,589 --> 00:44:54,160
that he's like well lockheed martin

965
00:44:57,510 --> 00:44:55,599
boeing defense

966
00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:57,520
he says i wanna i want you to i wanna

967
00:45:00,390 --> 00:44:58,880
send you some stuff over the internet

968
00:45:01,510 --> 00:45:00,400
you know some documents i wanna show

969
00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:01,520
your dad

970
00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:02,960
and i didn't have the internet so i had

971
00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:05,520
to wait go home get dial up

972
00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:08,800
and he sends me the majestic 12 files

973
00:45:13,109 --> 00:45:10,720
and so i'm like this is interesting what

974
00:45:15,589 --> 00:45:13,119
the hell's this and so i'm researching

975
00:45:18,550 --> 00:45:15,599
stan friedman and i read the book on

976
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:18,560
roswell and i kind of followed the ufo

977
00:45:22,710 --> 00:45:20,560
scene because my mother got me into it

978
00:45:25,109 --> 00:45:22,720
she used to buy me those books you know

979
00:45:27,430 --> 00:45:25,119
danic you know chariots of the gods and

980
00:45:29,349 --> 00:45:27,440
all those books and the ufo magazines

981
00:45:30,829 --> 00:45:29,359
they had in the 70s which were mostly

982
00:45:33,990 --> 00:45:30,839
crap

983
00:45:36,630 --> 00:45:34,000
right you know and i got my dad to cave

984
00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:36,640
in finally on the mj 12 files

985
00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:38,720
and he said look don't go down that road

986
00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:40,480
um you're not gonna find anything this

987
00:45:44,150 --> 00:45:42,960
is the highest classification

988
00:45:47,349 --> 00:45:44,160
um

989
00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:47,359
maybe one or two crafts you know

990
00:45:52,390 --> 00:45:50,160
dug in in new mexico and corona and

991
00:45:54,790 --> 00:45:52,400
maybe a couple others but that's it and

992
00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:54,800
you know this is all top level secrecy i

993
00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:56,480
only know a little bit of it you need

994
00:46:00,630 --> 00:45:58,319
you need to stay clear of it

995
00:46:01,910 --> 00:46:00,640
and i said there's no way i i can do

996
00:46:06,150 --> 00:46:01,920
that

997
00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:06,160
um now your dad always had um

998
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:10,160
the image of well let's back up in 1976

999
00:46:15,430 --> 00:46:12,720
77 i'm a kid you know you and i are

1000
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:15,440
about the same age and uh

1001
00:46:19,510 --> 00:46:17,920
and when that marriage happened to

1002
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:19,520
liz taylor

1003
00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:21,440
i like everybody else in the country are

1004
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:24,560
scratching our heads like what is

1005
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:26,880
this john warner guy what what what is

1006
00:46:33,670 --> 00:46:30,880
it about him and and that image as he

1007
00:46:36,309 --> 00:46:33,680
was thrust into you know he was thrust

1008
00:46:38,710 --> 00:46:36,319
into the media at that point

1009
00:46:42,150 --> 00:46:38,720
his image was always a very

1010
00:46:45,750 --> 00:46:42,160
straight-laced uh politician he had that

1011
00:46:47,990 --> 00:46:45,760
image um did he ever loosen up from that

1012
00:46:50,550 --> 00:46:48,000
or were you always fighting

1013
00:46:52,230 --> 00:46:50,560
uh where he was respecting the politics

1014
00:46:53,750 --> 00:46:52,240
and respecting the country and not

1015
00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:53,760
necessarily

1016
00:46:58,309 --> 00:46:56,480
uh loosening up

1017
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:58,319
well i was there when he went out and it

1018
00:47:01,990 --> 00:46:59,520
was actually

1019
00:47:05,670 --> 00:47:02,000
a setup date and it was uh the british

1020
00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:05,680
embassy and the queen was in town um

1021
00:47:09,430 --> 00:47:07,760
and uh he said damn it i gotta go out

1022
00:47:11,109 --> 00:47:09,440
this blind date or whatever i know some

1023
00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:11,119
actress nice i didn't know who she was

1024
00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:12,160
either

1025
00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:14,800
and i was only 14 you know and uh

1026
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:15,520
but

1027
00:47:19,030 --> 00:47:17,280
the thing is um

1028
00:47:21,589 --> 00:47:19,040
they're kind of opposites he is very

1029
00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:21,599
conservative but he's very funny too you

1030
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:22,480
know

1031
00:47:26,230 --> 00:47:24,720
he's a great guy and he they both love

1032
00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:26,240
people

1033
00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:27,520
man do they

1034
00:47:31,109 --> 00:47:29,760
both love people i do too but man

1035
00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:31,119
they're amazing

1036
00:47:33,990 --> 00:47:32,319
and they

1037
00:47:36,309 --> 00:47:34,000
you know politics was natural for him

1038
00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:36,319
but she was kind of a politician herself

1039
00:47:40,069 --> 00:47:38,319
she was the biggest deal in town in in

1040
00:47:42,390 --> 00:47:40,079
the 70s and there was no bigger movie

1041
00:47:44,069 --> 00:47:42,400
star in the world no he had no idea what

1042
00:47:46,150 --> 00:47:44,079
he was getting into but you know they

1043
00:47:48,549 --> 00:47:46,160
fell in love fast

1044
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:48,559
and um she was very lovable she was a

1045
00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:49,760
lot of fun

1046
00:47:53,990 --> 00:47:51,119
um

1047
00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:54,000
and uh but they shared commonalities

1048
00:47:57,030 --> 00:47:55,680
first of all the queen of england hated

1049
00:47:58,870 --> 00:47:57,040
her

1050
00:48:01,270 --> 00:47:58,880
that night you know that's a big that

1051
00:48:03,670 --> 00:48:01,280
was a big deal the queen can't stand her

1052
00:48:05,510 --> 00:48:03,680
and my dad thought that was really funny

1053
00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:05,520
uh because my family the melon family

1054
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:07,520
they're very close traditionally with

1055
00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:09,839
the uh british royal family my

1056
00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:12,160
great-grandfather andrew mellon was you

1057
00:48:18,309 --> 00:48:15,119
know ambassador to england in 1931

1058
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:18,319
and secretary of the treasury and so our

1059
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:20,000
and my grandfather paul mellon was very

1060
00:48:24,470 --> 00:48:21,839
good friends with the queen they had the

1061
00:48:26,549 --> 00:48:24,480
horse racing thing in common and when he

1062
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:26,559
was an oss

1063
00:48:30,549 --> 00:48:28,960
us army major in world war ii i know he

1064
00:48:33,190 --> 00:48:30,559
spent time in london with his

1065
00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:33,200
brother-in-law david k e bruce who was

1066
00:48:37,349 --> 00:48:35,839
oss station chief of london

1067
00:48:39,190 --> 00:48:37,359
and of course his other buddy was alan

1068
00:48:40,630 --> 00:48:39,200
dulles which was station chief of

1069
00:48:42,950 --> 00:48:40,640
switzerland

1070
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:42,960
no conspiracy there no no we were all

1071
00:48:49,030 --> 00:48:45,359
involved in project paper clip you know

1072
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:49,040
and so he spent time in london and uh

1073
00:48:53,190 --> 00:48:50,480
my mother always wondered whether or not

1074
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:53,200
they dated in secret but i don't know

1075
00:48:59,750 --> 00:48:55,200
well which which

1076
00:49:03,030 --> 00:48:59,760
and all of this uh brings me back to

1077
00:49:04,870 --> 00:49:03,040
you you live in washington dc um

1078
00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:04,880
uh and

1079
00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:08,720
uh the connections of of your families

1080
00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:10,800
you know on both sides

1081
00:49:17,030 --> 00:49:14,240
and you being so vocal uh about these

1082
00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:17,040
subjects uh now it's a little bit of a

1083
00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:19,200
safer zone than it was say 10 years ago

1084
00:49:26,309 --> 00:49:24,950
the agencies must be listening and and

1085
00:49:28,870 --> 00:49:26,319
watching

1086
00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:28,880
uh your comments have they reached out

1087
00:49:33,910 --> 00:49:32,160
to you um in the last let's just go 12

1088
00:49:35,990 --> 00:49:33,920
months have they reached out to you the

1089
00:49:38,390 --> 00:49:36,000
last 12 months ago hey john

1090
00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:38,400
uh we got to talk

1091
00:49:42,549 --> 00:49:40,160
no they haven't

1092
00:49:45,190 --> 00:49:42,559
but you know i know chris and lou

1093
00:49:48,309 --> 00:49:45,200
they're aware of my twitter memes and

1094
00:49:51,670 --> 00:49:48,319
and other things um but

1095
00:49:53,670 --> 00:49:51,680
the thing is with me is i

1096
00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:53,680
you know i was a pro racing driver you

1097
00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:56,400
know and for 20 years i had followed the

1098
00:50:01,670 --> 00:49:58,160
ufo scene a little bit i was always a

1099
00:50:02,950 --> 00:50:01,680
sci-fi fan star huge star trek fan

1100
00:50:06,309 --> 00:50:02,960
and

1101
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:06,319
but the mj12 files you know when i run

1102
00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:09,119
it my dad not confirmed those and i i

1103
00:50:14,470 --> 00:50:11,440
sort of woke up in 1993 i was a very

1104
00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:14,480
young naive 31 i really was

1105
00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:17,200
i admit that um

1106
00:50:21,349 --> 00:50:18,960
and i was just like having the time in

1107
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:21,359
my life you know how cold was the beer

1108
00:50:25,270 --> 00:50:23,520
how fast my race car could go and you

1109
00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:25,280
know how many women i could date and you

1110
00:50:28,790 --> 00:50:27,200
know i was dating pauline's

1111
00:50:30,309 --> 00:50:28,800
daughter and he and i were good friends

1112
00:50:33,030 --> 00:50:30,319
you know i was kind of

1113
00:50:35,829 --> 00:50:33,040
living this fast life but

1114
00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:35,839
in 2002 i hurt my back i've got metal

1115
00:50:41,109 --> 00:50:37,520
parts in my back

1116
00:50:42,870 --> 00:50:41,119
and a friend of mine gave me a book

1117
00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:42,880
and it was nick cooke's book the hunt

1118
00:50:47,670 --> 00:50:45,680
for zero point

1119
00:50:49,990 --> 00:50:47,680
and i was like what the hell is this and

1120
00:50:52,309 --> 00:50:50,000
i looked near cup cook up and he and i

1121
00:50:53,109 --> 00:50:52,319
have talked he did an interview with me

1122
00:50:57,270 --> 00:50:53,119
and

1123
00:50:59,349 --> 00:50:57,280
worked for jane's military weekly

1124
00:51:00,790 --> 00:50:59,359
he's a correspondent and a

1125
00:51:03,109 --> 00:51:00,800
journalist

1126
00:51:05,589 --> 00:51:03,119
and he started talking about hans comler

1127
00:51:08,549 --> 00:51:05,599
and all the anti-gravity and the ss

1128
00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:08,559
program in silesia and also in pilsen

1129
00:51:12,549 --> 00:51:10,880
czechoslovakia and i was like

1130
00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:12,559
wait a minute

1131
00:51:16,950 --> 00:51:14,160
because i had a discussion with my

1132
00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:16,960
grandfather um he was kind of a cold

1133
00:51:21,670 --> 00:51:20,160
aloof guy but because i was a man he and

1134
00:51:22,549 --> 00:51:21,680
i was sort of interested in the military

1135
00:51:24,630 --> 00:51:22,559
stuff

1136
00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:24,640
he paid a little bit of attention to me

1137
00:51:30,150 --> 00:51:28,240
um kind of ignored my mother and sisters

1138
00:51:32,069 --> 00:51:30,160
and i sat down with him one day you know

1139
00:51:34,309 --> 00:51:32,079
i said let's talk about the war i want

1140
00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:34,319
to come over you know have a martini and

1141
00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:35,520
he's drinking these hundred proof

1142
00:51:38,549 --> 00:51:37,200
martinis

1143
00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:38,559
lethal

1144
00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:41,119
and i asked him you know tell me

1145
00:51:44,870 --> 00:51:42,880
you know and he said well you know at

1146
00:51:46,390 --> 00:51:44,880
the end i was in the oss you know i did

1147
00:51:49,589 --> 00:51:46,400
various jobs

1148
00:51:51,109 --> 00:51:49,599
but um i was with alan dulles and patton

1149
00:51:53,270 --> 00:51:51,119
and he fox hunted with patton and

1150
00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:53,280
general marshall in middleburg virginia

1151
00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:54,880
so they all knew each other before the

1152
00:51:58,710 --> 00:51:57,359
war yeah dc was a very

1153
00:52:00,470 --> 00:51:58,720
chummy place

1154
00:52:02,870 --> 00:52:00,480
you know the oss wanted rich

1155
00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:02,880
well-traveled intellectuals and that was

1156
00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:05,760
my grandfather his his wife mary melon

1157
00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:08,400
my grandmother was a full-on mystic

1158
00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:10,480
i mean she was you know you knew carl

1159
00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:12,880
young really well they both did yes

1160
00:52:16,870 --> 00:52:15,440
gurjeev she knew all about rudolf

1161
00:52:19,190 --> 00:52:16,880
steiner and annie bassant and the

1162
00:52:21,750 --> 00:52:19,200
theosophist so she was you know tuned

1163
00:52:23,990 --> 00:52:21,760
into the universe you know atlantis e.t

1164
00:52:24,710 --> 00:52:24,000
visitation you know all that wasn't she

1165
00:52:26,870 --> 00:52:24,720
really

1166
00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:26,880
societies of germany

1167
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:30,160
wasn't she was she at the the the now

1168
00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:32,640
infamous seance where they summoned the

1169
00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:34,079
nine

1170
00:52:39,589 --> 00:52:37,200
was she at that seance i'm not sure they

1171
00:52:41,510 --> 00:52:39,599
they the one they did in the aeros

1172
00:52:44,230 --> 00:52:41,520
conferences in switzerland before the

1173
00:52:46,549 --> 00:52:44,240
war yeah with carl young

1174
00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:46,559
she might have been i can't remember

1175
00:52:50,790 --> 00:52:49,119
but she was definitely super smart and

1176
00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:50,800
you know brought my grandfather into

1177
00:52:54,390 --> 00:52:52,480
that fold

1178
00:52:56,150 --> 00:52:54,400
and so that's why the oss you know he

1179
00:52:58,390 --> 00:52:56,160
was a us army major at fort raleigh

1180
00:53:00,309 --> 00:52:58,400
kansas you know dealing with the horse

1181
00:53:02,309 --> 00:53:00,319
saddles and everything i mean that was

1182
00:53:04,549 --> 00:53:02,319
his thing he was a horse you know

1183
00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:04,559
aficionado good writer

1184
00:53:07,670 --> 00:53:06,400
but she said look you know about the

1185
00:53:09,430 --> 00:53:07,680
occult you know

1186
00:53:11,109 --> 00:53:09,440
why don't you join the ss because they

1187
00:53:12,470 --> 00:53:11,119
know they knew donovan from the fox

1188
00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:12,480
hunting scene

1189
00:53:16,309 --> 00:53:14,400
i mean you gotta remember dcu's a very

1190
00:53:17,589 --> 00:53:16,319
small town still today but it was really

1191
00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:17,599
small

1192
00:53:22,390 --> 00:53:19,920
and middleburg virginia is the very posh

1193
00:53:24,150 --> 00:53:22,400
horse racing you know equestrian

1194
00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:24,160
part of you know where i grew up on the

1195
00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:26,480
weekends out in virginia

1196
00:53:30,069 --> 00:53:28,079
and so they knew each other i have a

1197
00:53:32,069 --> 00:53:30,079
picture my grandfather took of marshall

1198
00:53:34,150 --> 00:53:32,079
and patton in their fox hunting

1199
00:53:35,430 --> 00:53:34,160
you know outfits

1200
00:53:37,510 --> 00:53:35,440
and so

1201
00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:37,520
i think that's how he got into the oss

1202
00:53:41,589 --> 00:53:39,760
um he told me that at the end of the war

1203
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:41,599
he was with patton and marshall i think

1204
00:53:45,030 --> 00:53:43,040
general marshall

1205
00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:45,040
and a few other generals and alan dulles

1206
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:47,359
and they had they were in pilsen

1207
00:53:50,470 --> 00:53:48,720
now patton

1208
00:53:52,630 --> 00:53:50,480
wanted to go to berlin and he and the

1209
00:53:54,150 --> 00:53:52,640
third army could have done it but ike

1210
00:53:55,109 --> 00:53:54,160
said no you need to do something more

1211
00:53:58,109 --> 00:53:55,119
important

1212
00:54:00,230 --> 00:53:58,119
you need to go to pilsen and secure the

1213
00:54:01,910 --> 00:54:00,240
sse4 division

1214
00:54:04,230 --> 00:54:01,920
which was you know

1215
00:54:05,589 --> 00:54:04,240
kind of like the area 51

1216
00:54:07,829 --> 00:54:05,599
of

1217
00:54:11,109 --> 00:54:07,839
czechoslovakia the german you know

1218
00:54:12,950 --> 00:54:11,119
conquered lands and so uh

1219
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:12,960
ss general hans connoller was in charge

1220
00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:15,040
of that he was a contractor built all

1221
00:54:19,190 --> 00:54:16,880
the death camps and

1222
00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:19,200
he was the one who installed the slave

1223
00:54:23,109 --> 00:54:21,119
labor program he's like look we've got

1224
00:54:24,790 --> 00:54:23,119
all this russians and jews let's use

1225
00:54:26,069 --> 00:54:24,800
them as slave labor and build rockets

1226
00:54:28,309 --> 00:54:26,079
and jets and

1227
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:28,319
so he was the instigator of that but my

1228
00:54:31,829 --> 00:54:30,319
grandfather he said i said what were you

1229
00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:31,839
doing there what did you see and he said

1230
00:54:36,789 --> 00:54:33,359
well we went into a hangar and we saw

1231
00:54:39,349 --> 00:54:36,799
all the rockets and the v2s and some v3

1232
00:54:41,589 --> 00:54:39,359
components um they were well on their

1233
00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:41,599
way to having a much bigger v3 rocket to

1234
00:54:47,190 --> 00:54:44,400
hit the east coast the united states

1235
00:54:49,670 --> 00:54:47,200
um with an atomic weapon and they were

1236
00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:49,680
well far along in the atomic program

1237
00:54:54,710 --> 00:54:52,720
that we're taught in history i mean

1238
00:54:56,549 --> 00:54:54,720
really far along i mean jp farrell

1239
00:54:59,349 --> 00:54:56,559
mentions it in the russian front the

1240
00:55:01,430 --> 00:54:59,359
high casualties they had thermobaric air

1241
00:55:04,069 --> 00:55:01,440
you know fuel air bombs in the rocket

1242
00:55:06,069 --> 00:55:04,079
launchers on the on the eastern front

1243
00:55:08,150 --> 00:55:06,079
the germans were way ahead and the more

1244
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:08,160
i've studied them throughout the decades

1245
00:55:12,069 --> 00:55:10,319
uh the more i'm convinced jp farrell and

1246
00:55:13,270 --> 00:55:12,079
others and nick cook and everybody are

1247
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:13,280
correct

1248
00:55:17,430 --> 00:55:15,040
um because my grandfather said you know

1249
00:55:20,710 --> 00:55:17,440
i saw rocket engines i saw the

1250
00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:20,720
television guided missile uh you know

1251
00:55:24,069 --> 00:55:22,640
um the flugel rod and you know with the

1252
00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:24,079
jet engines and everything and then he

1253
00:55:28,069 --> 00:55:26,640
said i saw a lot very large discs shaped

1254
00:55:30,630 --> 00:55:28,079
aircraft

1255
00:55:33,750 --> 00:55:30,640
and i said okay is that was that also

1256
00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:33,760
powered by the umo or bmw jet engines he

1257
00:55:37,270 --> 00:55:35,359
said no

1258
00:55:39,109 --> 00:55:37,280
this thing was much bigger

1259
00:55:40,710 --> 00:55:39,119
now where do you think um you know

1260
00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:40,720
there's been a lot of speculation about

1261
00:55:45,030 --> 00:55:42,880
this and if you go back to

1262
00:55:46,630 --> 00:55:45,040
uh some of the radio programs from the

1263
00:55:50,230 --> 00:55:46,640
1950s

1264
00:55:52,390 --> 00:55:50,240
and you listen to the discussions that

1265
00:55:53,510 --> 00:55:52,400
went on back then and i've done this a

1266
00:55:54,630 --> 00:55:53,520
lot

1267
00:55:56,630 --> 00:55:54,640
um

1268
00:56:00,829 --> 00:55:56,640
that was a big fault right after world

1269
00:56:02,390 --> 00:56:00,839
war ii you know 47 48 50 51 52 the

1270
00:56:05,270 --> 00:56:02,400
conversation

1271
00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:05,280
amongst those out there that were uh

1272
00:56:11,829 --> 00:56:08,720
researching the subject was all about

1273
00:56:13,990 --> 00:56:11,839
german saucer technology and and what

1274
00:56:16,150 --> 00:56:14,000
was sequestered what was brought over

1275
00:56:18,870 --> 00:56:16,160
operation paperclip this is a big

1276
00:56:21,589 --> 00:56:18,880
subject in the 50s where do you think

1277
00:56:23,430 --> 00:56:21,599
that technology ultimate land ultimately

1278
00:56:24,630 --> 00:56:23,440
landed you think the russians got a

1279
00:56:26,950 --> 00:56:24,640
bunch of it

1280
00:56:29,349 --> 00:56:26,960
we got some of it uh was it equally

1281
00:56:31,430 --> 00:56:29,359
divided we were both chasing down the

1282
00:56:33,349 --> 00:56:31,440
same scientists

1283
00:56:34,789 --> 00:56:33,359
well what i've pieced together and i i

1284
00:56:35,990 --> 00:56:34,799
write about some of these things in my

1285
00:56:37,270 --> 00:56:36,000
in my books

1286
00:56:39,270 --> 00:56:37,280
um

1287
00:56:40,630 --> 00:56:39,280
but what i pieced together this is what

1288
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:40,640
i think happened

1289
00:56:43,190 --> 00:56:41,760
you know everyone has a different

1290
00:56:44,789 --> 00:56:43,200
version but i you know from my

1291
00:56:46,789 --> 00:56:44,799
grandfather's

1292
00:56:49,109 --> 00:56:46,799
story you know and when i read nick

1293
00:56:50,549 --> 00:56:49,119
cooke's book that's when you know my jaw

1294
00:56:52,069 --> 00:56:50,559
hit the floor i was like this is

1295
00:56:55,910 --> 00:56:52,079
what my grandfather was talking about

1296
00:56:57,190 --> 00:56:55,920
right i hadn't thought of it in 20 years

1297
00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:57,200
and

1298
00:57:01,190 --> 00:56:59,680
but i think what happened was

1299
00:57:04,230 --> 00:57:01,200
at the end of the war obviously there

1300
00:57:06,309 --> 00:57:04,240
was a nazi red line by 43 most of the ss

1301
00:57:07,349 --> 00:57:06,319
the top nazis in the uss they knew it

1302
00:57:09,510 --> 00:57:07,359
was over

1303
00:57:10,309 --> 00:57:09,520
it was just too many russians too many

1304
00:57:11,589 --> 00:57:10,319
uh

1305
00:57:13,510 --> 00:57:11,599
tanks you know the allies were gonna

1306
00:57:14,470 --> 00:57:13,520
have a second they had a second front in

1307
00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:14,480
italy

1308
00:57:18,870 --> 00:57:16,240
you know through sicily and and they

1309
00:57:20,710 --> 00:57:18,880
were gonna come in a western front

1310
00:57:22,789 --> 00:57:20,720
and they knew it was pretty much all

1311
00:57:25,349 --> 00:57:22,799
over um they started the rat line you

1312
00:57:28,069 --> 00:57:25,359
know through the vatican to barcelona

1313
00:57:30,230 --> 00:57:28,079
then on to freighters and u-boats

1314
00:57:32,230 --> 00:57:30,240
to eat you know argentina that's well

1315
00:57:34,309 --> 00:57:32,240
documented um

1316
00:57:35,190 --> 00:57:34,319
probably just you know this antarctic

1317
00:57:37,030 --> 00:57:35,200
base

1318
00:57:39,190 --> 00:57:37,040
in north schwab and land i think there's

1319
00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:39,200
something definitely to that

1320
00:57:43,109 --> 00:57:41,760
how big or small it is i'm not sure but

1321
00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:43,119
the germans

1322
00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:44,880
they were capable of of anything a lot

1323
00:57:47,829 --> 00:57:46,000
of people said oh that would have been

1324
00:57:50,069 --> 00:57:47,839
impossible during the war and it's like

1325
00:57:51,670 --> 00:57:50,079
don't use that word

1326
00:57:53,829 --> 00:57:51,680
you know that word should be scrubbed

1327
00:57:55,589 --> 00:57:53,839
from the lexicon

1328
00:57:57,270 --> 00:57:55,599
everything is possible on our universe

1329
00:57:59,510 --> 00:57:57,280
everything that's the one thing i can

1330
00:58:00,710 --> 00:57:59,520
agree on with all my o and i friends and

1331
00:58:03,030 --> 00:58:00,720
cia

1332
00:58:05,430 --> 00:58:03,040
everything is possible in the universe

1333
00:58:07,190 --> 00:58:05,440
so what i think happened was

1334
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:07,200
project paperclip

1335
00:58:12,630 --> 00:58:09,359
uh my grandfather patton a few other

1336
00:58:14,470 --> 00:58:12,640
people they said we gotta get all

1337
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:14,480
load up all this stuff all the nazi

1338
00:58:19,349 --> 00:58:16,640
scientists all the paperwork there were

1339
00:58:21,270 --> 00:58:19,359
mature non-linear experiments free

1340
00:58:24,150 --> 00:58:21,280
energy the nazi bell

1341
00:58:25,670 --> 00:58:24,160
torsion field plasma accelerator

1342
00:58:27,589 --> 00:58:25,680
which is not that big a deal people

1343
00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:27,599
think oh it's impossible it's like no

1344
00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:30,240
anti-gravity and free energy once you

1345
00:58:34,069 --> 00:58:32,640
know the tricks it's not that hard i

1346
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:34,079
mean there's good evidence they had

1347
00:58:40,390 --> 00:58:36,400
basic anti-gravity in the 19th century

1348
00:58:42,069 --> 00:58:40,400
sonora era club the 1897 airship mystery

1349
00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:42,079
people think that's all a joke it's not

1350
00:58:46,069 --> 00:58:44,400
it's in them it's in the american press

1351
00:58:48,549 --> 00:58:46,079
you could prove that

1352
00:58:51,270 --> 00:58:48,559
there were sightings so

1353
00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:51,280
what i was told by various people um

1354
00:58:56,710 --> 00:58:54,880
they had the long-range douglas dc-6

1355
00:58:59,030 --> 00:58:56,720
at the end of the war

1356
00:59:02,230 --> 00:58:59,040
now they the first berlin airlift forget

1357
00:59:04,549 --> 00:59:02,240
it wasn't berlin it was it was pilsen

1358
00:59:06,309 --> 00:59:04,559
they were around the clock with dc fours

1359
00:59:08,630 --> 00:59:06,319
they probably haul the nazi bell off

1360
00:59:09,510 --> 00:59:08,640
either by train or airplane i'm not sure

1361
00:59:11,270 --> 00:59:09,520
which

1362
00:59:12,789 --> 00:59:11,280
no one is um

1363
00:59:14,309 --> 00:59:12,799
all these scientists and everyone make

1364
00:59:15,829 --> 00:59:14,319
deals the ones that didn't go to

1365
00:59:19,190 --> 00:59:15,839
argentina

1366
00:59:22,549 --> 00:59:19,200
came to america and worked for nasa or

1367
00:59:24,470 --> 00:59:22,559
bella helicopter and walter dernberger

1368
00:59:26,870 --> 00:59:24,480
yeah and they loaded everything up on

1369
00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:26,880
these dc sixes and trains

1370
00:59:31,349 --> 00:59:28,720
and they got the hell out of there

1371
00:59:34,390 --> 00:59:31,359
and i'll bet you that this is may 1945

1372
00:59:36,549 --> 00:59:34,400
i'll bet you by july one

1373
00:59:38,069 --> 00:59:36,559
or sooner because the russians were well

1374
00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:38,079
on their way yeah the russians were

1375
00:59:44,069 --> 00:59:41,680
doing the exact same thing that we were

1376
00:59:47,270 --> 00:59:44,079
they were loading up file cabinets into

1377
00:59:48,549 --> 00:59:47,280
trucks as fast as as they could move

1378
00:59:50,870 --> 00:59:48,559
dollies

1379
00:59:52,470 --> 00:59:50,880
and and grabbing everything and we were

1380
00:59:54,470 --> 00:59:52,480
doing all of that so you're probably

1381
00:59:57,349 --> 00:59:54,480
right by june 1st

1382
00:59:59,510 --> 00:59:57,359
all those offices were empty

1383
01:00:01,750 --> 00:59:59,520
oh yeah i think so and you know at the

1384
01:00:04,630 --> 01:00:01,760
yalta conference the story is that fdr

1385
01:00:08,150 --> 01:00:04,640
and churchill promised stalin in a deal

1386
01:00:10,470 --> 01:00:08,160
it's like you get czechoslovakia

1387
01:00:12,630 --> 01:00:10,480
but before you get there we're going to

1388
01:00:14,950 --> 01:00:12,640
send patton his third army in with a

1389
01:00:16,390 --> 01:00:14,960
bunch of oss guys you know

1390
01:00:17,910 --> 01:00:16,400
and we're gonna haul out all the good

1391
01:00:19,990 --> 01:00:17,920
stuff and the russians really got the

1392
01:00:23,030 --> 01:00:20,000
drags they got a few scientists they got

1393
01:00:25,030 --> 01:00:23,040
a few you know uh toys and other things

1394
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:25,040
but we got the lion's share and i've

1395
01:00:32,069 --> 01:00:29,200
been told it's well over 5 000 nazi ss

1396
01:00:33,750 --> 01:00:32,079
and german scientists and technicians

1397
01:00:35,589 --> 01:00:33,760
and all their data and all their

1398
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equipment you know you're talking

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chemical lasers from ig farben you're

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talking free energy mature non-linear

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physics experiments walter gerlach you

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know hans commlers stuff he had a lot of

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stuff to trade he was no dummy he knew

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he he'd have to

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01:00:53,109 --> 01:00:51,760
hold back on secrets so that he could

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bargain with the americans in the

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english

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now we all make perfect sense it does it

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does um we need to take a break uh and

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before we get there

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um

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russia ended up

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you know uh getting a satellite up

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before us with with sputnik in 1957.

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well but but my point being that shocked

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everybody because that was

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the public version of the space race

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right and

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and i think everybody was taken by

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01:01:29,670 --> 01:01:26,640
surprise with that

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01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:29,680
or was it first and where did this

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01:01:33,670 --> 01:01:32,240
technology come from and did somebody

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have some help

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and all of that we'll discuss i'm

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setting everything up when we come back

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after the break our guest tonight the

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one and only john warner the fourth i am

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your host jimmy church this is fade to

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black tonight is the premiere of the on

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that is listening from all around the

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world and all across the united states

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i'm your host jimmy church more with

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john warner the fourth when we come back

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welcome back fade to black i'm your host

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jimmy church what a great week we have

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01:07:24,069 --> 01:07:21,920
here on the show

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01:07:25,270 --> 01:07:24,079
i want to welcome everybody over the nx

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01:07:27,510 --> 01:07:25,280
network

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01:07:28,870 --> 01:07:27,520
race hobbs tonight john warner the

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01:07:31,750 --> 01:07:28,880
fourth is with us tomorrow night

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01:07:33,430 --> 01:07:31,760
director roger r richards is here

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01:07:36,150 --> 01:07:33,440
wednesday night paula harris and then

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01:07:38,549 --> 01:07:36,160
thursday night is another fader night

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01:07:41,349 --> 01:07:38,559
with open lines all night long tonight

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01:07:46,309 --> 01:07:41,359
john warner the fourth is with us and

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01:07:48,390 --> 01:07:46,319
so john that's a great setup um uh and

1548
01:07:50,870 --> 01:07:48,400
for that kind of historical perspective

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01:07:53,029 --> 01:07:50,880
i think we all need it and if we go back

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01:07:55,190 --> 01:07:53,039
i want to combine everything

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01:07:57,029 --> 01:07:55,200
uh that you just said if we go

1552
01:08:00,710 --> 01:07:57,039
talking about the oss

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01:08:04,549 --> 01:08:00,720
uh which uh morphed into the cia that

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01:08:07,910 --> 01:08:04,559
happened in 1947 1947 we have of course

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01:08:10,950 --> 01:08:07,920
roswell and other uh crash retrievals

1556
01:08:13,349 --> 01:08:10,960
that happen around the country and uh

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01:08:16,149 --> 01:08:13,359
from that point forward

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01:08:17,749 --> 01:08:16,159
the race to technology was on and it was

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01:08:19,030 --> 01:08:17,759
globally and certainly here in the

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01:08:21,910 --> 01:08:19,040
united states

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01:08:23,430 --> 01:08:21,920
um but the

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01:08:30,070 --> 01:08:23,440
the

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01:08:33,590 --> 01:08:30,080
et and ufo information

1564
01:08:35,829 --> 01:08:33,600
started in 1947 and were right off of

1565
01:08:37,829 --> 01:08:35,839
the heels of world war ii

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01:08:40,070 --> 01:08:37,839
where uh

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and keeping your mouth shut

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01:08:46,390 --> 01:08:43,920
uh was a a method of operation that that

1569
01:08:49,269 --> 01:08:46,400
everybody practiced uh civilians

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01:08:51,189 --> 01:08:49,279
military politics globally that's the

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01:08:54,550 --> 01:08:51,199
way that the world ran

1572
01:08:58,309 --> 01:08:54,560
and that form of secrecy

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01:09:02,709 --> 01:08:58,319
continues through to this very day

1574
01:09:04,789 --> 01:09:02,719
it did start in 1947 didn't it

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01:09:06,950 --> 01:09:04,799
yeah the national security act

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01:09:09,110 --> 01:09:06,960
you know uh there were a lot of strange

1577
01:09:11,349 --> 01:09:09,120
things in 47 there's a story that

1578
01:09:14,709 --> 01:09:11,359
occultists you know jack parsons was a

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01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:14,719
chemist for jpl labs that he had been

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01:09:19,349 --> 01:09:16,480
corresponding with aleister crowley who

1581
01:09:21,590 --> 01:09:19,359
was an mi6 agent and a you know premier

1582
01:09:23,510 --> 01:09:21,600
occultists of the 20th century there's a

1583
01:09:26,070 --> 01:09:23,520
story that purports

1584
01:09:27,510 --> 01:09:26,080
that they did a babylon workings

1585
01:09:29,910 --> 01:09:27,520
you know ritual

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01:09:32,950 --> 01:09:29,920
at the area 51 site

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in 1947. it was just a bombing bomber a

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01:09:38,309 --> 01:09:35,759
small airport and a bombing range

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01:09:39,749 --> 01:09:38,319
i find that a very interesting story i i

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01:09:41,669 --> 01:09:39,759
think i believe that

1591
01:09:44,070 --> 01:09:41,679
uh apparently there's large tunnels

1592
01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:44,080
under area 51 that go every which way i

1593
01:09:48,630 --> 01:09:46,640
mean huge tunnels and who built those

1594
01:09:50,229 --> 01:09:48,640
tunnels well

1595
01:09:51,910 --> 01:09:50,239
i wonder

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01:09:54,070 --> 01:09:51,920
you know but anyway back to your

1597
01:09:55,430 --> 01:09:54,080
question your 47 was a pivotal year

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01:09:56,870 --> 01:09:55,440
there's no doubt

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and

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01:10:00,950 --> 01:09:57,920
uh

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01:10:03,910 --> 01:10:00,960
with um this openness

1602
01:10:06,709 --> 01:10:03,920
that is happening today

1603
01:10:08,790 --> 01:10:06,719
we are forced into especially in the ufo

1604
01:10:09,910 --> 01:10:08,800
community but the rest of the world too

1605
01:10:11,189 --> 01:10:09,920
um

1606
01:10:12,070 --> 01:10:11,199
whenever

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01:10:15,830 --> 01:10:12,080
there

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01:10:18,950 --> 01:10:15,840
was a ufo uh sighting or report in the

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01:10:21,110 --> 01:10:18,960
national news and i was part of uh this

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01:10:22,470 --> 01:10:21,120
action myself personally so i can speak

1611
01:10:23,350 --> 01:10:22,480
about it directly

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01:10:25,590 --> 01:10:23,360
um

1613
01:10:27,830 --> 01:10:25,600
they would cover the story then cue the

1614
01:10:29,110 --> 01:10:27,840
x-files music they did it to me i

1615
01:10:31,750 --> 01:10:29,120
couldn't believe it

1616
01:10:32,709 --> 01:10:31,760
and uh and that's the way that i love

1617
01:10:39,830 --> 01:10:32,719
that

1618
01:10:42,149 --> 01:10:39,840
and well you know what though i've got

1619
01:10:43,750 --> 01:10:42,159
that feather in my cap i can actually

1620
01:10:46,790 --> 01:10:43,760
say that that happened i i have the

1621
01:10:47,590 --> 01:10:46,800
videotape um but is this

1622
01:10:49,430 --> 01:10:47,600
uh

1623
01:10:51,990 --> 01:10:49,440
today

1624
01:10:54,229 --> 01:10:52,000
everybody is talking about it it's the

1625
01:10:56,470 --> 01:10:54,239
military it's politicians it's

1626
01:10:59,350 --> 01:10:56,480
corporations private citizens and it's

1627
01:11:02,950 --> 01:10:59,360
the mass media it's where suddenly

1628
01:11:05,270 --> 01:11:02,960
uh washington dc wants to be the ufo

1629
01:11:06,870 --> 01:11:05,280
community's friend

1630
01:11:09,189 --> 01:11:06,880
uh

1631
01:11:11,750 --> 01:11:09,199
at what point do we

1632
01:11:14,950 --> 01:11:11,760
do we trust a little more i mean you

1633
01:11:18,870 --> 01:11:14,960
know do we extend this out or do we stop

1634
01:11:20,950 --> 01:11:18,880
and and accept what is going on

1635
01:11:23,830 --> 01:11:20,960
well you can see me smiling but the the

1636
01:11:27,030 --> 01:11:23,840
audience can't um no i was born and

1637
01:11:28,630 --> 01:11:27,040
raised here i mean i you know i spent

1638
01:11:32,070 --> 01:11:28,640
time in the pentagon when i was a kid in

1639
01:11:34,310 --> 01:11:32,080
my father's office from 68 to 74.

1640
01:11:36,070 --> 01:11:34,320
you know i i've spent a lot of time in

1641
01:11:37,350 --> 01:11:36,080
the u.s government and

1642
01:11:39,189 --> 01:11:37,360
i know a lot of people have worked from

1643
01:11:41,110 --> 01:11:39,199
the military and

1644
01:11:43,350 --> 01:11:41,120
the intel community and the scientific

1645
01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:43,360
community um

1646
01:11:47,110 --> 01:11:44,560
yeah

1647
01:11:48,790 --> 01:11:47,120
dc um

1648
01:11:50,950 --> 01:11:48,800
first of all you know my father and i

1649
01:11:52,950 --> 01:11:50,960
had a conversation about 10 years ago

1650
01:11:54,550 --> 01:11:52,960
and i finally got him to admit that all

1651
01:11:57,030 --> 01:11:54,560
senators and congressmen are bought and

1652
01:11:58,630 --> 01:11:57,040
paid for special interests which is why

1653
01:12:00,870 --> 01:11:58,640
he aligned himself with the navy and the

1654
01:12:02,470 --> 01:12:00,880
marines his very solid background they

1655
01:12:04,229 --> 01:12:02,480
have his back

1656
01:12:06,830 --> 01:12:04,239
and he said i don't want any of that

1657
01:12:09,030 --> 01:12:06,840
crap and i said well that was smart

1658
01:12:12,310 --> 01:12:09,040
um you know

1659
01:12:14,790 --> 01:12:12,320
suddenly they're interested in ufos

1660
01:12:17,590 --> 01:12:14,800
come on i don't think most americans buy

1661
01:12:20,229 --> 01:12:17,600
that at all um

1662
01:12:23,350 --> 01:12:20,239
congress you're not gonna get much i i'd

1663
01:12:25,669 --> 01:12:23,360
say you know nowadays maybe five percent

1664
01:12:27,990 --> 01:12:25,679
are read in on some above top secret

1665
01:12:31,189 --> 01:12:28,000
stuff like my father was read in on a

1666
01:12:32,149 --> 01:12:31,199
thin slice of the ufo file he was a um

1667
01:12:34,229 --> 01:12:32,159
you know

1668
01:12:36,550 --> 01:12:34,239
he had connections to mj 12 and other

1669
01:12:37,669 --> 01:12:36,560
round tables with different names you

1670
01:12:39,669 --> 01:12:37,679
know they change their names all the

1671
01:12:42,390 --> 01:12:39,679
time

1672
01:12:45,510 --> 01:12:42,400
but most of them you know marco rubio

1673
01:12:48,149 --> 01:12:45,520
doesn't know jack about ufos or i'm

1674
01:12:51,350 --> 01:12:48,159
sorry you know these people uap task

1675
01:12:52,149 --> 01:12:51,360
force you know uap is just a distractive

1676
01:12:56,550 --> 01:12:52,159
term

1677
01:12:58,950 --> 01:12:56,560
you know to try to they're trying to

1678
01:13:00,950 --> 01:12:58,960
water down the narrative

1679
01:13:03,030 --> 01:13:00,960
and biola council are doing a pretty

1680
01:13:04,709 --> 01:13:03,040
good job except

1681
01:13:06,870 --> 01:13:04,719
we're in the era of the great awakenings

1682
01:13:08,310 --> 01:13:06,880
you know since the 1960s

1683
01:13:11,110 --> 01:13:08,320
you know the consciousness has been

1684
01:13:12,709 --> 01:13:11,120
rising on the whole world and they know

1685
01:13:14,870 --> 01:13:12,719
they can't stop that you know people in

1686
01:13:18,390 --> 01:13:14,880
the deep state the five percent that

1687
01:13:19,669 --> 01:13:18,400
wear black cowboy hats and nazi armbands

1688
01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:19,679
you know that want to keep all this

1689
01:13:24,390 --> 01:13:23,120
stuff top secret and never let it out

1690
01:13:26,470 --> 01:13:24,400
but you know

1691
01:13:27,990 --> 01:13:26,480
the people of the united states i can't

1692
01:13:29,590 --> 01:13:28,000
speak to other countries but the people

1693
01:13:32,470 --> 01:13:29,600
of the united states they've been you

1694
01:13:35,030 --> 01:13:32,480
know movies television books

1695
01:13:38,149 --> 01:13:35,040
everything the internet

1696
01:13:40,950 --> 01:13:38,159
the education on some of this is rising

1697
01:13:42,550 --> 01:13:40,960
at a fast pace

1698
01:13:44,709 --> 01:13:42,560
none of my friends are really interested

1699
01:13:46,470 --> 01:13:44,719
in this topic but they did ask me

1700
01:13:49,110 --> 01:13:46,480
questions when chris mellon and lou

1701
01:13:50,630 --> 01:13:49,120
elizondo came out in 2017

1702
01:13:52,310 --> 01:13:50,640
you know and they said oh warner's not

1703
01:13:53,910 --> 01:13:52,320
such an idiot after all and i'm like

1704
01:13:56,709 --> 01:13:53,920
thanks a lot

1705
01:13:59,110 --> 01:13:56,719
you know but as far as washington being

1706
01:14:01,110 --> 01:13:59,120
you know what i think is happening

1707
01:14:04,950 --> 01:14:01,120
and i'm not alone

1708
01:14:09,189 --> 01:14:08,149
somewhere in the military industrial

1709
01:14:12,830 --> 01:14:09,199
corporate

1710
01:14:15,669 --> 01:14:12,840
intel complex which is

1711
01:14:17,590 --> 01:14:15,679
massive there's pressure to there's

1712
01:14:19,910 --> 01:14:17,600
always been pressure since the 50s but

1713
01:14:21,910 --> 01:14:19,920
you know majestic 12 or whatever they

1714
01:14:23,590 --> 01:14:21,920
kicked the can down the road

1715
01:14:25,590 --> 01:14:23,600
and then i'll let you in 10 years you

1716
01:14:29,189 --> 01:14:25,600
guys handle it i want to retire with my

1717
01:14:31,030 --> 01:14:29,199
pension and my investments

1718
01:14:33,510 --> 01:14:31,040
but something's going on and i think

1719
01:14:35,830 --> 01:14:33,520
it's combination of et

1720
01:14:37,990 --> 01:14:35,840
and human and it's different factions in

1721
01:14:39,430 --> 01:14:38,000
the military industrial this complex out

1722
01:14:41,189 --> 01:14:39,440
there the deep state whatever you want

1723
01:14:43,030 --> 01:14:41,199
to call it national security state is

1724
01:14:45,990 --> 01:14:43,040
more apt

1725
01:14:48,070 --> 01:14:46,000
there's some sort of pressure happening

1726
01:14:50,390 --> 01:14:48,080
and you know other people have mentioned

1727
01:14:52,950 --> 01:14:50,400
this but you know i've seen

1728
01:14:55,510 --> 01:14:52,960
the temperature in dc ufos used to be

1729
01:14:57,669 --> 01:14:55,520
laughed at on the news

1730
01:14:59,830 --> 01:14:57,679
and on capitol hill i mean i used to

1731
01:15:02,470 --> 01:14:59,840
bobby ray in the admiral i used to ask

1732
01:15:03,990 --> 01:15:02,480
him about ufos in my father's office oh

1733
01:15:06,229 --> 01:15:04,000
well i'm hopeful he's like the navy has

1734
01:15:08,229 --> 01:15:06,239
all kinds of technology and we hope

1735
01:15:10,070 --> 01:15:08,239
to disclose it in 2000

1736
01:15:12,390 --> 01:15:10,080
well what did we get in 2001 and we got

1737
01:15:14,229 --> 01:15:12,400
911.

1738
01:15:15,430 --> 01:15:14,239
so i think that put the fear god in

1739
01:15:18,070 --> 01:15:15,440
everyone

1740
01:15:20,870 --> 01:15:18,080
in dc and elsewhere in the military just

1741
01:15:24,709 --> 01:15:20,880
as the kennedy assassination had done in

1742
01:15:27,110 --> 01:15:24,719
other words keep your damn mouth shut

1743
01:15:28,950 --> 01:15:27,120
and it worked for a little while and

1744
01:15:31,189 --> 01:15:28,960
then the conspiracy theorists really

1745
01:15:33,189 --> 01:15:31,199
started to come out and i saw the you

1746
01:15:35,110 --> 01:15:33,199
know there's a photo of my dad and

1747
01:15:37,350 --> 01:15:35,120
rumsfeld and cheney walking in front of

1748
01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:37,360
the pentagon the giant hole and i said

1749
01:15:40,709 --> 01:15:39,120
dad i'm a pilot where the hell are the

1750
01:15:42,149 --> 01:15:40,719
engines in the in the indentation where

1751
01:15:44,709 --> 01:15:42,159
the wings went in

1752
01:15:47,270 --> 01:15:44,719
he would not talk about that with me

1753
01:15:48,550 --> 01:15:47,280
we were very close and that was the one

1754
01:15:51,430 --> 01:15:48,560
he's like i'll talk with you about the

1755
01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:51,440
other supplement not not that

1756
01:15:54,310 --> 01:15:52,480
and so

1757
01:15:57,510 --> 01:15:54,320
that's what shiver really went down my

1758
01:16:00,709 --> 01:15:57,520
spine and right you know 2001.

1759
01:16:04,390 --> 01:16:00,719
and and so why now um

1760
01:16:07,110 --> 01:16:04,400
we have of course uh leslie kane and and

1761
01:16:09,990 --> 01:16:07,120
ralph blumenthals article uh back in

1762
01:16:11,030 --> 01:16:10,000
2017 in the new york times

1763
01:16:14,229 --> 01:16:11,040
um

1764
01:16:16,950 --> 01:16:14,239
it was was that was this going to happen

1765
01:16:20,709 --> 01:16:16,960
anyway and was that just a catalyst

1766
01:16:22,790 --> 01:16:20,719
to to push this conversation forward or

1767
01:16:24,709 --> 01:16:22,800
was it the revelations that were

1768
01:16:27,189 --> 01:16:24,719
presented in that article

1769
01:16:29,110 --> 01:16:27,199
that forced the department of defense's

1770
01:16:31,910 --> 01:16:29,120
hand

1771
01:16:32,790 --> 01:16:31,920
i think it was a combination of factors

1772
01:16:34,709 --> 01:16:32,800
um

1773
01:16:36,790 --> 01:16:34,719
first of all the internet

1774
01:16:39,270 --> 01:16:36,800
the advent of the internet they they can

1775
01:16:40,870 --> 01:16:39,280
muddy the waters like the mekong river

1776
01:16:42,790 --> 01:16:40,880
but they can't make information

1777
01:16:45,189 --> 01:16:42,800
disappear they could try

1778
01:16:47,510 --> 01:16:45,199
they've scrubbed people from youtube

1779
01:16:48,709 --> 01:16:47,520
uh and and elsewhere and they have taken

1780
01:16:50,950 --> 01:16:48,719
down websites but there's an

1781
01:16:53,110 --> 01:16:50,960
extraordinary amount of alternative

1782
01:16:54,790 --> 01:16:53,120
information all over the internet

1783
01:16:57,270 --> 01:16:54,800
uh the problem is piecing it all

1784
01:16:59,990 --> 01:16:57,280
together i mean i i've tried to over 30

1785
01:17:01,110 --> 01:17:00,000
years i really have

1786
01:17:03,669 --> 01:17:01,120
and

1787
01:17:05,669 --> 01:17:03,679
i think there's internal pressure

1788
01:17:07,910 --> 01:17:05,679
in the national security state we've

1789
01:17:09,510 --> 01:17:07,920
have to do something

1790
01:17:11,669 --> 01:17:09,520
because people are waking up and

1791
01:17:13,590 --> 01:17:11,679
catching on too fast

1792
01:17:15,350 --> 01:17:13,600
and what i think is happening is an

1793
01:17:17,750 --> 01:17:15,360
extension of project blue book which was

1794
01:17:20,709 --> 01:17:17,760
in the 60s and 70s which attempted to

1795
01:17:23,189 --> 01:17:20,719
debunk ufos and you know swamp gas and

1796
01:17:24,310 --> 01:17:23,199
hysterical housewives you know all that

1797
01:17:28,149 --> 01:17:24,320
junk

1798
01:17:30,870 --> 01:17:28,159
um this is just a new version of it

1799
01:17:33,590 --> 01:17:30,880
i think the uap task force initiative on

1800
01:17:35,590 --> 01:17:33,600
on capitol hill that's complete childish

1801
01:17:37,750 --> 01:17:35,600
nonsense that's never going to go

1802
01:17:39,590 --> 01:17:37,760
anywhere it's like a race car on ice you

1803
01:17:41,350 --> 01:17:39,600
can have a thousand horsepower

1804
01:17:43,750 --> 01:17:41,360
you can put more power down but you're

1805
01:17:45,270 --> 01:17:43,760
still spinning in circles

1806
01:17:46,870 --> 01:17:45,280
and that's what they're doing the

1807
01:17:49,030 --> 01:17:46,880
narrative isn't moving forward it's

1808
01:17:51,110 --> 01:17:49,040
moving sideways

1809
01:17:53,430 --> 01:17:51,120
it's an old counter intelligence tactic

1810
01:17:55,510 --> 01:17:53,440
it's for everyone in who understands a

1811
01:17:57,189 --> 01:17:55,520
lot of this stuff as you and i do it's

1812
01:18:00,070 --> 01:17:57,199
pretty easy to see what they're trying

1813
01:18:01,990 --> 01:18:00,080
to do oh we're not sure it's a mystery

1814
01:18:05,750 --> 01:18:02,000
gee whiz we got to have a task force to

1815
01:18:07,030 --> 01:18:05,760
figure it out it's uap now and you know

1816
01:18:08,950 --> 01:18:07,040
what they think they're going to do is

1817
01:18:10,630 --> 01:18:08,960
they're going to just disclose the uap

1818
01:18:13,110 --> 01:18:10,640
and all this stuff oh look it's lockheed

1819
01:18:14,470 --> 01:18:13,120
martin it's boeing it's grumman they're

1820
01:18:16,149 --> 01:18:14,480
just hours

1821
01:18:18,630 --> 01:18:16,159
there's only you know there were only a

1822
01:18:20,790 --> 01:18:18,640
couple of crashes 70 years ago

1823
01:18:21,910 --> 01:18:20,800
and we back engineered this entire you

1824
01:18:23,910 --> 01:18:21,920
know

1825
01:18:27,590 --> 01:18:23,920
breakaway civilization which i think is

1826
01:18:29,030 --> 01:18:27,600
a thousand years ahead of the mainstream

1827
01:18:31,110 --> 01:18:29,040
and they back engineered it from two

1828
01:18:33,189 --> 01:18:31,120
craft when in reality there were

1829
01:18:34,149 --> 01:18:33,199
thousands of craft crashing all over the

1830
01:18:37,750 --> 01:18:34,159
world

1831
01:18:40,630 --> 01:18:37,760
uh probably all throughout history

1832
01:18:42,550 --> 01:18:40,640
but definitely since you know

1833
01:18:44,630 --> 01:18:42,560
the early you know after world war 1 the

1834
01:18:47,030 --> 01:18:44,640
20s and there's reports in the 20s and

1835
01:18:48,470 --> 01:18:47,040
30s you know everyone thinks roswell i

1836
01:18:50,790 --> 01:18:48,480
don't know

1837
01:18:52,470 --> 01:18:50,800
far before that and there was

1838
01:18:54,630 --> 01:18:52,480
communication i think the braille

1839
01:18:56,229 --> 01:18:54,640
society the tula society of germany i

1840
01:18:57,350 --> 01:18:56,239
think they were communicating with their

1841
01:18:59,110 --> 01:18:57,360
factions

1842
01:19:00,790 --> 01:18:59,120
and i think fdr

1843
01:19:02,709 --> 01:19:00,800
you know in the americans we were

1844
01:19:03,590 --> 01:19:02,719
communicating with some people

1845
01:19:06,310 --> 01:19:03,600
um

1846
01:19:09,030 --> 01:19:06,320
in the vein of val thor and that kind of

1847
01:19:10,470 --> 01:19:09,040
group you know either probably during

1848
01:19:12,550 --> 01:19:10,480
the war because there were crashes

1849
01:19:15,030 --> 01:19:12,560
during the war there was the

1850
01:19:18,310 --> 01:19:15,040
battle of los angeles in 1942 and i

1851
01:19:22,070 --> 01:19:18,320
think a ufo crashed in cape girardeau

1852
01:19:23,590 --> 01:19:22,080
yeah cape girardeau yeah yeah in 41 42.

1853
01:19:25,830 --> 01:19:23,600
the fbi got a hold of it and then the

1854
01:19:27,669 --> 01:19:25,840
army g2 guys got there and they had it i

1855
01:19:29,590 --> 01:19:27,679
write about this they they had a big

1856
01:19:30,870 --> 01:19:29,600
to-do they always fight about over the

1857
01:19:32,630 --> 01:19:30,880
wreckage

1858
01:19:34,709 --> 01:19:32,640
you know and the navy comes in there no

1859
01:19:37,510 --> 01:19:34,719
it's ours and the army claims it's there

1860
01:19:39,590 --> 01:19:37,520
you know it's these things are kind of

1861
01:19:40,950 --> 01:19:39,600
you know a well-known joke around town

1862
01:19:42,790 --> 01:19:40,960
but

1863
01:19:44,870 --> 01:19:42,800
that they're they're creating a new

1864
01:19:45,910 --> 01:19:44,880
narrative a new space and they're going

1865
01:19:47,750 --> 01:19:45,920
to say

1866
01:19:49,189 --> 01:19:47,760
they want to control it

1867
01:19:51,270 --> 01:19:49,199
just like they did with project blue

1868
01:19:53,030 --> 01:19:51,280
book but you can't fool people anymore

1869
01:19:55,430 --> 01:19:53,040
we have the internet people are waking

1870
01:19:59,030 --> 01:19:55,440
up kids are smarter i mean i have a

1871
01:20:01,430 --> 01:19:59,040
seven-year-old step grandson and he's

1872
01:20:04,709 --> 01:20:01,440
and he's like oh yeah

1873
01:20:06,390 --> 01:20:04,719
yeah well and and then we have uh

1874
01:20:07,510 --> 01:20:06,400
staying on this

1875
01:20:11,189 --> 01:20:07,520
um

1876
01:20:14,870 --> 01:20:11,199
the revelations of of atip

1877
01:20:17,669 --> 01:20:14,880
uh in december of 2017 was in direct

1878
01:20:19,270 --> 01:20:17,679
contrast to what the air force and the

1879
01:20:21,030 --> 01:20:19,280
department of defense have been telling

1880
01:20:23,030 --> 01:20:21,040
us publicly that

1881
01:20:25,830 --> 01:20:23,040
they don't have any interest in ufos

1882
01:20:27,990 --> 01:20:25,840
well clearly they always have

1883
01:20:30,870 --> 01:20:28,000
and blue book uh

1884
01:20:33,990 --> 01:20:30,880
probably ended by name but the research

1885
01:20:36,950 --> 01:20:34,000
was always there but today it's the

1886
01:20:37,910 --> 01:20:36,960
united states navy is the central figure

1887
01:20:40,870 --> 01:20:37,920
in this

1888
01:20:42,870 --> 01:20:40,880
and and not the air force anymore

1889
01:20:45,189 --> 01:20:42,880
is it because the air force just isn't

1890
01:20:46,390 --> 01:20:45,199
saying anything

1891
01:20:51,830 --> 01:20:46,400
they must have

1892
01:20:53,990 --> 01:20:51,840
the the best data on on any et contact

1893
01:20:56,950 --> 01:20:54,000
i'm not sure who has the best data i

1894
01:20:58,390 --> 01:20:56,960
think everyone's got a slice of the pie

1895
01:21:00,310 --> 01:20:58,400
but the navy and the air force

1896
01:21:02,070 --> 01:21:00,320
traditionally not get along the army

1897
01:21:04,550 --> 01:21:02,080
navy air force they've always fought

1898
01:21:06,470 --> 01:21:04,560
right um but there's

1899
01:21:09,350 --> 01:21:06,480
from what i know there's been

1900
01:21:11,110 --> 01:21:09,360
many more crashes out to sea

1901
01:21:12,470 --> 01:21:11,120
and you remember that uh

1902
01:21:14,390 --> 01:21:12,480
the i think was called the glomar

1903
01:21:16,550 --> 01:21:14,400
explorer you know howard hughes cobbled

1904
01:21:18,149 --> 01:21:16,560
together the cia ship to pick up russian

1905
01:21:20,149 --> 01:21:18,159
submarines well guess what else they

1906
01:21:21,669 --> 01:21:20,159
were picking up

1907
01:21:23,430 --> 01:21:21,679
you know it's always been about a

1908
01:21:25,830 --> 01:21:23,440
technology hunt this is what i write

1909
01:21:27,669 --> 01:21:25,840
about my book lion tiger bear the onon

1910
01:21:29,830 --> 01:21:27,679
airbay ss you know that the

1911
01:21:31,110 --> 01:21:29,840
archaeologists and historical racial

1912
01:21:31,990 --> 01:21:31,120
society

1913
01:21:33,430 --> 01:21:32,000
that was

1914
01:21:34,470 --> 01:21:33,440
embedded with the tula and various

1915
01:21:36,550 --> 01:21:34,480
society

1916
01:21:38,790 --> 01:21:36,560
they were after this you know the vedic

1917
01:21:40,709 --> 01:21:38,800
texts in india they were going to tibet

1918
01:21:42,629 --> 01:21:40,719
to find agartha

1919
01:21:44,709 --> 01:21:42,639
you know and measure a few skulls for

1920
01:21:46,870 --> 01:21:44,719
himmler but you know in reality they

1921
01:21:48,470 --> 01:21:46,880
were on a technology hunt you know most

1922
01:21:51,510 --> 01:21:48,480
people don't realize the germans were in

1923
01:21:53,350 --> 01:21:51,520
baghdad in 40 and 41 before the british

1924
01:21:54,950 --> 01:21:53,360
kicked them out well they looted the

1925
01:21:59,830 --> 01:21:54,960
baghdad museum

1926
01:22:01,430 --> 01:21:59,840
for in the 90s you know clay tablets

1927
01:22:05,030 --> 01:22:01,440
which are

1928
01:22:06,470 --> 01:22:05,040
anunnaki writings and lists of goods and

1929
01:22:07,830 --> 01:22:06,480
technology if you know what you're

1930
01:22:09,669 --> 01:22:07,840
looking for and you know how to

1931
01:22:12,229 --> 01:22:09,679
translate them

1932
01:22:13,270 --> 01:22:12,239
so this is nothing new i think the us

1933
01:22:14,629 --> 01:22:13,280
navy

1934
01:22:16,870 --> 01:22:14,639
um

1935
01:22:19,110 --> 01:22:16,880
has always had the lion's share you know

1936
01:22:21,270 --> 01:22:19,120
i wrote in chapter one on my book i

1937
01:22:23,510 --> 01:22:21,280
write it that you know

1938
01:22:26,709 --> 01:22:23,520
they had been seeing uh foo fighters

1939
01:22:29,669 --> 01:22:28,390
coming out of the water and the japanese

1940
01:22:31,189 --> 01:22:29,679
thought they were ours and we thought

1941
01:22:32,629 --> 01:22:31,199
they were the japanese the germans

1942
01:22:33,990 --> 01:22:32,639
thought they were you know everyone

1943
01:22:35,910 --> 01:22:34,000
thought they were everyone else's but

1944
01:22:37,270 --> 01:22:35,920
they weren't they were flying through

1945
01:22:39,590 --> 01:22:37,280
airplanes they were disrupting

1946
01:22:41,830 --> 01:22:39,600
electrical systems and engine ignition

1947
01:22:43,590 --> 01:22:41,840
systems and they scared the crap out of

1948
01:22:44,950 --> 01:22:43,600
a destroyer and you know they started

1949
01:22:47,270 --> 01:22:44,960
firing on it

1950
01:22:49,350 --> 01:22:47,280
and i i i know through the piecing

1951
01:22:51,189 --> 01:22:49,360
together of different files and

1952
01:22:54,070 --> 01:22:51,199
information on fdr

1953
01:22:56,390 --> 01:22:54,080
that he gave orders do not shoot at them

1954
01:22:58,070 --> 01:22:56,400
unless they shoot at you first and he

1955
01:23:00,470 --> 01:22:58,080
knew they wouldn't

1956
01:23:02,229 --> 01:23:00,480
because most ets visiting earth are

1957
01:23:03,669 --> 01:23:02,239
benevolent

1958
01:23:05,590 --> 01:23:03,679
the three percent

1959
01:23:07,590 --> 01:23:05,600
right may have been in cahoots with the

1960
01:23:08,790 --> 01:23:07,600
nazis and they're not so nice people and

1961
01:23:10,709 --> 01:23:08,800
they're still wandering around the

1962
01:23:12,629 --> 01:23:10,719
pentagon and dc today

1963
01:23:15,669 --> 01:23:12,639
is what i've heard you know

1964
01:23:17,270 --> 01:23:15,679
now um rory are benevolent

1965
01:23:22,790 --> 01:23:17,280
the

1966
01:23:25,350 --> 01:23:22,800
uh

1967
01:23:27,669 --> 01:23:25,360
the department of defense and the dia in

1968
01:23:29,510 --> 01:23:27,679
the ua ptf report

1969
01:23:32,950 --> 01:23:29,520
um you know we we don't know what's

1970
01:23:35,189 --> 01:23:32,960
going on it's not ours it's not russian

1971
01:23:37,430 --> 01:23:35,199
uh but

1972
01:23:40,390 --> 01:23:37,440
we you know they did everything but put

1973
01:23:42,229 --> 01:23:40,400
an e.t label on this i understand the

1974
01:23:43,750 --> 01:23:42,239
reasons why uh

1975
01:23:45,110 --> 01:23:43,760
but anyway

1976
01:23:46,870 --> 01:23:45,120
uh

1977
01:23:49,270 --> 01:23:46,880
they are stating that they know russians

1978
01:23:50,470 --> 01:23:49,280
and the chinese too yeah right right

1979
01:23:52,629 --> 01:23:50,480
right

1980
01:23:54,390 --> 01:23:52,639
say that they clearly don't know

1981
01:23:55,270 --> 01:23:54,400
anything

1982
01:23:57,510 --> 01:23:55,280
well

1983
01:24:01,270 --> 01:23:57,520
they know an awful lot

1984
01:24:03,669 --> 01:24:01,280
and and the uap task force report with

1985
01:24:05,750 --> 01:24:03,679
this giant hole in it

1986
01:24:07,830 --> 01:24:05,760
saying that the department of defense

1987
01:24:10,390 --> 01:24:07,840
doesn't know anything we we have no clue

1988
01:24:13,189 --> 01:24:10,400
about what's going on that has to be an

1989
01:24:14,629 --> 01:24:13,199
untruth is that just a blatant lie

1990
01:24:16,470 --> 01:24:14,639
yeah

1991
01:24:19,350 --> 01:24:16,480
i mean people have to get over that the

1992
01:24:21,189 --> 01:24:19,360
us government and military yes national

1993
01:24:23,990 --> 01:24:21,199
security oh my god the russians and

1994
01:24:27,430 --> 01:24:24,000
chinese iranians are listening you know

1995
01:24:29,110 --> 01:24:27,440
some of that has a grain of truth um but

1996
01:24:30,950 --> 01:24:29,120
you know

1997
01:24:34,149 --> 01:24:30,960
i've seen

1998
01:24:35,910 --> 01:24:34,159
sheets of drawings of ufos you know with

1999
01:24:37,669 --> 01:24:35,920
military markings

2000
01:24:39,510 --> 01:24:37,679
i've been told by my intelligence

2001
01:24:40,950 --> 01:24:39,520
friends and my own eye friend you know

2002
01:24:44,229 --> 01:24:40,960
the us navy has

2003
01:24:47,030 --> 01:24:44,239
charts of thousands of different shapes

2004
01:24:49,030 --> 01:24:47,040
sizes colors of craft they know who's

2005
01:24:51,110 --> 01:24:49,040
piloting them for the most part they

2006
01:24:53,030 --> 01:24:51,120
know where they came from

2007
01:24:56,149 --> 01:24:53,040
and most of the time they know what

2008
01:24:58,629 --> 01:24:56,159
they're up to agenda-wise not always but

2009
01:25:00,229 --> 01:24:58,639
you know and they keep lists now my own

2010
01:25:01,990 --> 01:25:00,239
i friend said you know let me tell you

2011
01:25:04,629 --> 01:25:02,000
about the satellites the u.s navy has

2012
01:25:06,229 --> 01:25:04,639
two main satellites like the air force

2013
01:25:08,790 --> 01:25:06,239
the air force replenishes them with

2014
01:25:10,550 --> 01:25:08,800
anti-gravity b2 bombers that's why they

2015
01:25:13,110 --> 01:25:10,560
cost two billion a piece

2016
01:25:14,950 --> 01:25:13,120
yeah 2.3 billion and that was 20 years

2017
01:25:16,470 --> 01:25:14,960
ago that that cost

2018
01:25:17,910 --> 01:25:16,480
it's because they have you know all this

2019
01:25:19,270 --> 01:25:17,920
high technology on them they're

2020
01:25:22,790 --> 01:25:19,280
anti-gravity and

2021
01:25:25,110 --> 01:25:22,800
they're low earth orbit capable

2022
01:25:26,870 --> 01:25:25,120
and so he's like the are the navy

2023
01:25:29,189 --> 01:25:26,880
satellites can track these sons of

2024
01:25:31,510 --> 01:25:29,199
coming punching in and out super

2025
01:25:33,990 --> 01:25:31,520
luminol which is beyond the speed of

2026
01:25:36,550 --> 01:25:34,000
light and they could track them 25 miles

2027
01:25:38,830 --> 01:25:36,560
beneath the ocean or land

2028
01:25:41,430 --> 01:25:38,840
day or night now

2029
01:25:45,030 --> 01:25:41,440
ratcliffe alluded to this i believe it

2030
01:25:47,270 --> 01:25:45,040
was radcliffe uh where he said uh that

2031
01:25:49,750 --> 01:25:47,280
we have been tracking them with our

2032
01:25:51,830 --> 01:25:49,760
satellites approaching earth and then

2033
01:25:52,709 --> 01:25:51,840
entering our atmosphere we have this

2034
01:25:55,910 --> 01:25:52,719
data

2035
01:25:59,350 --> 01:25:55,920
and we know where they are going to

2036
01:26:01,030 --> 01:25:59,360
um and i think that was pretty bold on

2037
01:26:02,550 --> 01:26:01,040
ratcliffe's part

2038
01:26:04,790 --> 01:26:02,560
to state that but that kind of

2039
01:26:05,990 --> 01:26:04,800
technology has to be obvious right our

2040
01:26:09,110 --> 01:26:06,000
satellites are out there they're

2041
01:26:10,550 --> 01:26:09,120
tracking everything asteroids right

2042
01:26:13,270 --> 01:26:10,560
they're tracking everything that's going

2043
01:26:15,669 --> 01:26:13,280
on in our star system they must be

2044
01:26:17,830 --> 01:26:15,679
tracking stuff that is uh coming in and

2045
01:26:20,950 --> 01:26:17,840
entering our atmosphere

2046
01:26:23,830 --> 01:26:20,960
and is is is this tracking

2047
01:26:26,870 --> 01:26:23,840
the tic tac is this tracking what the

2048
01:26:28,870 --> 01:26:26,880
foo fighters were in world war ii

2049
01:26:30,070 --> 01:26:28,880
you know um coming and going from the

2050
01:26:32,790 --> 01:26:30,080
ocean

2051
01:26:35,669 --> 01:26:32,800
is is this just one in the same thing

2052
01:26:36,390 --> 01:26:35,679
that has been going on for 70 years

2053
01:26:38,950 --> 01:26:36,400
well

2054
01:26:42,149 --> 01:26:38,960
from what i've gathered foo fighters

2055
01:26:44,709 --> 01:26:42,159
are were probably some type of plasma

2056
01:26:47,510 --> 01:26:44,719
drone information just like our drones

2057
01:26:49,030 --> 01:26:47,520
today they gather information

2058
01:26:51,110 --> 01:26:49,040
um

2059
01:26:53,430 --> 01:26:51,120
but you know the the world war ii pilots

2060
01:26:55,350 --> 01:26:53,440
and navy people they saw flying saucers

2061
01:26:56,950 --> 01:26:55,360
and giant cigars they they saw all that

2062
01:26:58,790 --> 01:26:56,960
stuff back in world war ii we're just

2063
01:27:00,229 --> 01:26:58,800
not told about it

2064
01:27:03,189 --> 01:27:00,239
uh it's just like you were saying the

2065
01:27:06,070 --> 01:27:03,199
first satellite into space i'm positive

2066
01:27:08,950 --> 01:27:06,080
by 47 or 48 we had cobbled together a

2067
01:27:11,350 --> 01:27:08,960
german v2 put a basic round satellite on

2068
01:27:12,950 --> 01:27:11,360
it and you know had it in orbit but it

2069
01:27:14,229 --> 01:27:12,960
was classified

2070
01:27:16,229 --> 01:27:14,239
you know the russians aren't going to

2071
01:27:18,870 --> 01:27:16,239
disclose anything they disclosed sputnik

2072
01:27:20,310 --> 01:27:18,880
for political reasons we've had stuff up

2073
01:27:21,910 --> 01:27:20,320
in orbit you know all throughout the

2074
01:27:22,629 --> 01:27:21,920
late 40s and 50s

2075
01:27:23,750 --> 01:27:22,639
but

2076
01:27:25,910 --> 01:27:23,760
you know

2077
01:27:27,189 --> 01:27:25,920
it's obvious that uh not only can they

2078
01:27:29,350 --> 01:27:27,199
track and

2079
01:27:30,870 --> 01:27:29,360
oh these guys are going where i think

2080
01:27:33,910 --> 01:27:30,880
that you know that we've been doing a

2081
01:27:37,110 --> 01:27:33,920
trade interaction with et's various

2082
01:27:40,070 --> 01:27:37,120
groups some say up to 900 or a thousand

2083
01:27:42,709 --> 01:27:40,080
different races for everything

2084
01:27:44,310 --> 01:27:42,719
you know it's not all nefarious it but a

2085
01:27:47,110 --> 01:27:44,320
lot of it you know is

2086
01:27:49,750 --> 01:27:47,120
unconstitutional and very unsavory

2087
01:27:51,189 --> 01:27:49,760
um you know it's a trade you know the

2088
01:27:52,229 --> 01:27:51,199
barter system there's no money out in

2089
01:27:55,430 --> 01:27:52,239
the

2090
01:27:57,430 --> 01:27:55,440
it's just like ours that's slavery

2091
01:27:59,990 --> 01:27:57,440
that's debt slavery

2092
01:28:03,430 --> 01:28:00,000
and so you know it it stands to reason

2093
01:28:04,149 --> 01:28:03,440
you know everyone's oh the uap uap you

2094
01:28:06,070 --> 01:28:04,159
know

2095
01:28:07,669 --> 01:28:06,080
charles hall describes them in his book

2096
01:28:09,110 --> 01:28:07,679
about the tall whites out in indian

2097
01:28:10,709 --> 01:28:09,120
springs

2098
01:28:13,750 --> 01:28:10,719
you know the tall whites were

2099
01:28:15,270 --> 01:28:13,760
blue-collar annunaki who were in you

2100
01:28:17,350 --> 01:28:15,280
know had a bad

2101
01:28:19,189 --> 01:28:17,360
time with some of their countrymen out

2102
01:28:20,470 --> 01:28:19,199
in space and they came here looking for

2103
01:28:22,390 --> 01:28:20,480
asylum

2104
01:28:24,470 --> 01:28:22,400
and they were not the nicest people they

2105
01:28:26,310 --> 01:28:24,480
liked charles hall he was young and nice

2106
01:28:29,110 --> 01:28:26,320
they liked him but they they treated

2107
01:28:30,629 --> 01:28:29,120
others very badly and lo and behold they

2108
01:28:31,750 --> 01:28:30,639
were flying around in these white tic

2109
01:28:33,750 --> 01:28:31,760
tacs

2110
01:28:36,310 --> 01:28:33,760
i think slowly over

2111
01:28:39,590 --> 01:28:36,320
50 60 years they slowly gave the u.s air

2112
01:28:41,750 --> 01:28:39,600
force or whoever lockheed martin

2113
01:28:44,790 --> 01:28:41,760
that technology you know

2114
01:28:47,030 --> 01:28:44,800
as a way to pay their rent because they

2115
01:28:49,750 --> 01:28:47,040
they they call it the people at groom

2116
01:28:52,629 --> 01:28:49,760
lake area 51 they call it the holiday

2117
01:28:54,470 --> 01:28:52,639
inn you know pap poo you know papua's

2118
01:28:57,030 --> 01:28:54,480
lake and indian springs you know there's

2119
01:28:59,110 --> 01:28:57,040
underground facilities there and so

2120
01:29:00,470 --> 01:28:59,120
everyone's like oh we're you know i give

2121
01:29:02,709 --> 01:29:00,480
lockheed martin all the credit in the

2122
01:29:05,110 --> 01:29:02,719
world but come on you know

2123
01:29:06,790 --> 01:29:05,120
we've gotten blueprints so to speak you

2124
01:29:09,189 --> 01:29:06,800
know electronic probably holographic

2125
01:29:11,350 --> 01:29:09,199
blueprints from et's probably going back

2126
01:29:14,149 --> 01:29:11,360
to the 40s and 50s

2127
01:29:16,390 --> 01:29:14,159
now but it takes time to back engineer

2128
01:29:18,470 --> 01:29:16,400
as as we head into the break and we'll

2129
01:29:19,669 --> 01:29:18,480
set up for uh when we turn around and

2130
01:29:20,790 --> 01:29:19,679
come back

2131
01:29:23,430 --> 01:29:20,800
um

2132
01:29:25,830 --> 01:29:23,440
there has been a lot of talk and

2133
01:29:26,870 --> 01:29:25,840
nobody's really figured anything out yet

2134
01:29:28,070 --> 01:29:26,880
but

2135
01:29:28,950 --> 01:29:28,080
that

2136
01:29:30,310 --> 01:29:28,960
the

2137
01:29:33,510 --> 01:29:30,320
uap

2138
01:29:35,030 --> 01:29:33,520
situation and specifically the tic tac

2139
01:29:37,189 --> 01:29:35,040
may be

2140
01:29:39,189 --> 01:29:37,199
backwards engineered

2141
01:29:41,590 --> 01:29:39,199
alien technology

2142
01:29:43,189 --> 01:29:41,600
that that we possess and that's what the

2143
01:29:44,149 --> 01:29:43,199
tic tac was

2144
01:29:45,510 --> 01:29:44,159
and

2145
01:29:48,229 --> 01:29:45,520
uh but

2146
01:29:50,229 --> 01:29:48,239
the soviet union and china

2147
01:29:53,030 --> 01:29:50,239
they have the same crash retrievals

2148
01:29:54,390 --> 01:29:53,040
going on this isn't a us phenomenon are

2149
01:29:57,830 --> 01:29:54,400
they in possession of the same

2150
01:30:00,870 --> 01:29:57,840
technology that that we are

2151
01:30:02,790 --> 01:30:00,880
um in a sense yes i think the russians

2152
01:30:05,030 --> 01:30:02,800
are probably catching up to us they

2153
01:30:07,910 --> 01:30:05,040
probably might have parody now

2154
01:30:09,590 --> 01:30:07,920
the chinese are way behind us um

2155
01:30:11,590 --> 01:30:09,600
no one's quite sure their secret space

2156
01:30:13,430 --> 01:30:11,600
program how advanced it is i'm sure they

2157
01:30:15,510 --> 01:30:13,440
have some stuff

2158
01:30:17,669 --> 01:30:15,520
um that is pretty good

2159
01:30:19,830 --> 01:30:17,679
uh it depends which factions you know of

2160
01:30:21,830 --> 01:30:19,840
ets are advising them as contractors i

2161
01:30:23,990 --> 01:30:21,840
mean they call them contractors

2162
01:30:26,229 --> 01:30:24,000
a guy at a pentagon you know a

2163
01:30:27,750 --> 01:30:26,239
high-level officer said oh yeah we call

2164
01:30:29,590 --> 01:30:27,760
them you know

2165
01:30:31,590 --> 01:30:29,600
contractors

2166
01:30:33,189 --> 01:30:31,600
that's this big joke the anunnaki walked

2167
01:30:35,030 --> 01:30:33,199
the halls of the pentagon every goddamn

2168
01:30:37,430 --> 01:30:35,040
day

2169
01:30:39,270 --> 01:30:37,440
yeah it's in the nsa you go to the lower

2170
01:30:41,910 --> 01:30:39,280
levels and there's grays

2171
01:30:44,229 --> 01:30:41,920
several species tall short of the grays

2172
01:30:47,350 --> 01:30:44,239
helping out and it's like uh

2173
01:30:49,510 --> 01:30:47,360
my my son-in-law it works for the nsa

2174
01:30:51,110 --> 01:30:49,520
you know they're like he's like i want

2175
01:30:53,030 --> 01:30:51,120
to work with the aliens you know my

2176
01:30:54,950 --> 01:30:53,040
friend uncle johnny over here told me

2177
01:30:57,030 --> 01:30:54,960
and they said well

2178
01:30:58,390 --> 01:30:57,040
would you like to

2179
01:31:00,390 --> 01:30:58,400
no

2180
01:31:02,709 --> 01:31:00,400
yeah can you talk about this stuff

2181
01:31:05,830 --> 01:31:02,719
publicly uh no i was just joking and

2182
01:31:07,590 --> 01:31:05,840
then like well be advised that we're not

2183
01:31:09,110 --> 01:31:07,600
wow

2184
01:31:10,629 --> 01:31:09,120
let's take a break that right there is

2185
01:31:11,990 --> 01:31:10,639
making me think let's take a break right

2186
01:31:14,629 --> 01:31:12,000
here this is fade to black i'm real

2187
01:31:16,629 --> 01:31:14,639
stupid church tonight john warner i'm

2188
01:31:18,470 --> 01:31:16,639
gonna say it the fourth

2189
01:31:19,910 --> 01:31:18,480
is with this this is faded black i'm

2190
01:31:24,070 --> 01:31:19,920
your jimmy church on the game changer

2191
01:31:25,510 --> 01:31:24,080
network kjcr and the on x network we

2192
01:31:31,310 --> 01:31:25,520
will be right back after this short

2193
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:38,870
[Music]

2194
01:31:42,550 --> 01:31:41,030
you're listening to jimmy church and

2195
01:31:52,310 --> 01:31:42,560
fade to black

2196
01:31:58,550 --> 01:31:55,430
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2197
01:32:00,390 --> 01:31:58,560
you're listening to fade to

2198
01:32:03,110 --> 01:32:00,400
always on the edge of the hottest

2199
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:03,120
alternative talk jimmy church with fade

2200
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:06,290
to black

2201
01:32:06,290 --> 01:32:17,990
[Applause]

2202
01:32:22,950 --> 01:32:20,550
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01:32:25,110 --> 01:32:22,960
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2210
01:32:43,350 --> 01:32:40,880
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2211
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2212
01:32:48,390 --> 01:32:45,679
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[Music]

2295
01:37:08,790 --> 01:37:06,550
welcome back fade to black i'm yours

2296
01:37:10,790 --> 01:37:08,800
jimmy church tonight our guest john

2297
01:37:12,709 --> 01:37:10,800
warner iv i've been looking forward to

2298
01:37:16,310 --> 01:37:12,719
this show for a long time

2299
01:37:18,070 --> 01:37:16,320
and uh now before i get back to john

2300
01:37:20,550 --> 01:37:18,080
uh

2301
01:37:23,590 --> 01:37:20,560
well john

2302
01:37:25,430 --> 01:37:23,600
uh in the ufo world i like to play a

2303
01:37:28,149 --> 01:37:25,440
game when i go to conferences i like to

2304
01:37:30,229 --> 01:37:28,159
play a game called spot the fed

2305
01:37:31,430 --> 01:37:30,239
right okay because you know they're out

2306
01:37:33,910 --> 01:37:31,440
there

2307
01:37:36,870 --> 01:37:33,920
and uh and it's it's a thing we have fun

2308
01:37:38,070 --> 01:37:36,880
with right well in one of the chat rooms

2309
01:37:42,390 --> 01:37:38,080
tonight

2310
01:37:44,390 --> 01:37:42,400
it appears that they've spotted a fed

2311
01:37:46,229 --> 01:37:44,400
in the chat room

2312
01:37:48,149 --> 01:37:46,239
calling them out man calling them out

2313
01:37:49,030 --> 01:37:48,159
it's pretty funny pretty funny spot the

2314
01:37:56,310 --> 01:37:49,040
fed

2315
01:37:58,390 --> 01:37:56,320
how easy is it to keep a secret

2316
01:38:00,310 --> 01:37:58,400
and we could always talk about you know

2317
01:38:02,390 --> 01:38:00,320
the manhattan project we can talk about

2318
01:38:03,830 --> 01:38:02,400
you know that and and use certain things

2319
01:38:07,189 --> 01:38:03,840
for references

2320
01:38:09,030 --> 01:38:07,199
but if you've got et technology

2321
01:38:10,149 --> 01:38:09,040
you're going to hold your cards close to

2322
01:38:13,030 --> 01:38:10,159
the chest

2323
01:38:15,990 --> 01:38:13,040
and and that includes russia and china

2324
01:38:17,270 --> 01:38:16,000
um and and i reflect back to the united

2325
01:38:20,310 --> 01:38:17,280
states right now

2326
01:38:22,070 --> 01:38:20,320
are we talking a bit too much are we

2327
01:38:24,310 --> 01:38:22,080
letting our

2328
01:38:25,990 --> 01:38:24,320
cards show

2329
01:38:28,390 --> 01:38:26,000
and and i'm sure you understand the

2330
01:38:33,109 --> 01:38:28,400
question you know are we are we just

2331
01:38:35,350 --> 01:38:34,310
no

2332
01:38:37,510 --> 01:38:35,360
um

2333
01:38:39,350 --> 01:38:37,520
this whole dog and pony show

2334
01:38:41,270 --> 01:38:39,360
through the decades you know young

2335
01:38:43,350 --> 01:38:41,280
people don't realize this but we've been

2336
01:38:45,910 --> 01:38:43,360
calling the chinese and the russians

2337
01:38:48,229 --> 01:38:45,920
you know and the iranians are enemies

2338
01:38:50,629 --> 01:38:48,239
for decades they're always the boogie

2339
01:38:53,030 --> 01:38:50,639
men you know this is the united

2340
01:38:55,590 --> 01:38:53,040
states military

2341
01:38:57,669 --> 01:38:55,600
and our space force you know how big or

2342
01:38:59,510 --> 01:38:57,679
small it is and no one's quite sure but

2343
01:39:02,470 --> 01:38:59,520
i think it's really big

2344
01:39:04,950 --> 01:39:02,480
uh we had the firepower to defeat all

2345
01:39:07,189 --> 01:39:04,960
countries combined over the world

2346
01:39:09,189 --> 01:39:07,199
probably a hundred times over

2347
01:39:11,189 --> 01:39:09,199
this whole thing we're leaking things to

2348
01:39:12,950 --> 01:39:11,199
our enemies and yeah there's cyber

2349
01:39:15,030 --> 01:39:12,960
warfare between china and the united

2350
01:39:18,149 --> 01:39:15,040
states and the russians that's just

2351
01:39:19,590 --> 01:39:18,159
common stuff but this hot war where

2352
01:39:21,590 --> 01:39:19,600
nukes are going to fly i don't think any

2353
01:39:23,270 --> 01:39:21,600
nuke is going to work i think the et's

2354
01:39:24,629 --> 01:39:23,280
have disabled those there's a lot of

2355
01:39:26,709 --> 01:39:24,639
people that you know they see them

2356
01:39:28,790 --> 01:39:26,719
around nuclear installations i've heard

2357
01:39:30,870 --> 01:39:28,800
that by 93 they had melted down

2358
01:39:33,030 --> 01:39:30,880
everything and nothing works you can

2359
01:39:35,430 --> 01:39:33,040
roll out new ones

2360
01:39:37,350 --> 01:39:35,440
because if you let off a nuke

2361
01:39:39,910 --> 01:39:37,360
and you know robert oppenheimer knew

2362
01:39:41,590 --> 01:39:39,920
this when he was inventing the atomic

2363
01:39:42,629 --> 01:39:41,600
bomb actually he didn't the germans did

2364
01:39:44,390 --> 01:39:42,639
but

2365
01:39:46,470 --> 01:39:44,400
um

2366
01:39:49,669 --> 01:39:46,480
in 44 you know when they lobbed off the

2367
01:39:52,629 --> 01:39:49,679
hiroshima weapon fat man and little boy

2368
01:39:55,109 --> 01:39:52,639
he said something from the vedic texts

2369
01:39:57,910 --> 01:39:55,119
and that is i have become death

2370
01:39:59,669 --> 01:39:57,920
the destroyer of worlds

2371
01:40:01,510 --> 01:39:59,679
now most people think he's talking about

2372
01:40:04,070 --> 01:40:01,520
our world

2373
01:40:05,830 --> 01:40:04,080
uh he wasn't

2374
01:40:08,149 --> 01:40:05,840
he was talking that when the word is

2375
01:40:10,870 --> 01:40:08,159
metaphysically uh that when you lay off

2376
01:40:12,550 --> 01:40:10,880
let off a nuclear weapon

2377
01:40:15,669 --> 01:40:12,560
it not only affects the local

2378
01:40:18,470 --> 01:40:15,679
battlefield at hand

2379
01:40:21,189 --> 01:40:18,480
but it destroys uh it kills millions of

2380
01:40:23,270 --> 01:40:21,199
other life forms and people in in nearby

2381
01:40:25,669 --> 01:40:23,280
dimensions so into the fourth and maybe

2382
01:40:28,149 --> 01:40:25,679
even the lower fifth dimension so you're

2383
01:40:30,950 --> 01:40:28,159
killing people you can't see

2384
01:40:33,189 --> 01:40:30,960
and oppenheimer knew that john g trump

2385
01:40:34,629 --> 01:40:33,199
the physicist worked with them he knew

2386
01:40:36,470 --> 01:40:34,639
he knew that because they were all

2387
01:40:38,229 --> 01:40:36,480
freemasons and occultists

2388
01:40:40,629 --> 01:40:38,239
so they knew the esoteric truth of the

2389
01:40:42,629 --> 01:40:40,639
world they were high level so was fdr

2390
01:40:44,310 --> 01:40:42,639
marshall churchill

2391
01:40:46,310 --> 01:40:44,320
you know so

2392
01:40:48,229 --> 01:40:46,320
you know this whole idea that you know

2393
01:40:49,669 --> 01:40:48,239
the right we were always cooperating

2394
01:40:51,750 --> 01:40:49,679
with the russians

2395
01:40:53,830 --> 01:40:51,760
on the lower levels you know above top

2396
01:40:55,430 --> 01:40:53,840
secret levels my dad told me you know in

2397
01:40:57,830 --> 01:40:55,440
83 most people don't remember we were

2398
01:41:02,229 --> 01:40:57,840
very close to nuclear war in 83

2399
01:41:03,510 --> 01:41:02,239
with the russians just like 1962 um

2400
01:41:04,950 --> 01:41:03,520
and my dad said you know we've been

2401
01:41:06,470 --> 01:41:04,960
close to war because you know these

2402
01:41:07,590 --> 01:41:06,480
generals and admirals they're idiots you

2403
01:41:10,390 --> 01:41:07,600
know they don't know that we're

2404
01:41:13,590 --> 01:41:10,400
cooperating on the deeper levels

2405
01:41:15,350 --> 01:41:13,600
and um so something could go off

2406
01:41:17,350 --> 01:41:15,360
uh which is why they were always my dad

2407
01:41:18,310 --> 01:41:17,360
was always in the salt to talks and

2408
01:41:19,750 --> 01:41:18,320
everything in the 70s they're always

2409
01:41:21,109 --> 01:41:19,760
trying to improve the communications

2410
01:41:22,629 --> 01:41:21,119
with the russians

2411
01:41:24,070 --> 01:41:22,639
but you know the hard line of russians

2412
01:41:25,830 --> 01:41:24,080
and then our own hawks you know they

2413
01:41:27,750 --> 01:41:25,840
always want to mix it up and think they

2414
01:41:28,470 --> 01:41:27,760
can survive a nuclear war

2415
01:41:30,950 --> 01:41:28,480
but

2416
01:41:32,470 --> 01:41:30,960
you know e.t took a big interest during

2417
01:41:35,189 --> 01:41:32,480
world war ii when we were developing

2418
01:41:36,550 --> 01:41:35,199
nuclear weapons because

2419
01:41:38,709 --> 01:41:36,560
it's not we're not just killing

2420
01:41:40,070 --> 01:41:38,719
ourselves we're killing others and

2421
01:41:41,990 --> 01:41:40,080
that's a big

2422
01:41:43,750 --> 01:41:42,000
no-no in the universe

2423
01:41:45,669 --> 01:41:43,760
so that's what oppenheimer meant about

2424
01:41:47,669 --> 01:41:45,679
that but i think

2425
01:41:51,430 --> 01:41:47,679
you know them you know saying we're

2426
01:41:53,189 --> 01:41:51,440
leaking stuff out that's all um

2427
01:41:54,870 --> 01:41:53,199
america it's surprising how much

2428
01:41:56,950 --> 01:41:54,880
intelligence we do have because from the

2429
01:41:59,669 --> 01:41:56,960
russians and the chinese and anybody

2430
01:42:02,149 --> 01:41:59,679
else or england it's very little

2431
01:42:04,229 --> 01:42:02,159
they don't talk about there's you know

2432
01:42:05,350 --> 01:42:04,239
people have to really dig hard to find

2433
01:42:07,350 --> 01:42:05,360
intelligence

2434
01:42:09,350 --> 01:42:07,360
now granted we probably have a lot more

2435
01:42:11,510 --> 01:42:09,360
counterintelligence and garbage out

2436
01:42:14,550 --> 01:42:11,520
there floating around to muddy the

2437
01:42:16,470 --> 01:42:14,560
mekong river as it were right but you

2438
01:42:21,189 --> 01:42:16,480
know are we giving away things to our

2439
01:42:23,030 --> 01:42:21,199
enemies no that's that's an old excuse

2440
01:42:25,030 --> 01:42:23,040
really old and you know i've heard lou

2441
01:42:26,950 --> 01:42:25,040
elizondo and others chris mellon you

2442
01:42:29,910 --> 01:42:26,960
know they they said oh we don't want to

2443
01:42:31,669 --> 01:42:29,920
you know alarm our enemies oh come on

2444
01:42:33,109 --> 01:42:31,679
you know that's ridiculous anyone in

2445
01:42:34,550 --> 01:42:33,119
washington tell you that anyone in the

2446
01:42:37,430 --> 01:42:34,560
pentagon tell you that they're not our

2447
01:42:41,590 --> 01:42:37,440
real enemies they never really were

2448
01:42:43,830 --> 01:42:41,600
now what do we what do we do with um uh

2449
01:42:45,270 --> 01:42:43,840
you know these days of disclosure that

2450
01:42:47,189 --> 01:42:45,280
we are in

2451
01:42:49,430 --> 01:42:47,199
why aren't we hearing anything from

2452
01:42:51,270 --> 01:42:49,440
putin why aren't we hearing anything

2453
01:42:53,990 --> 01:42:51,280
from china

2454
01:42:55,590 --> 01:42:54,000
certainly their military is having the

2455
01:42:58,310 --> 01:42:55,600
same issues

2456
01:43:00,390 --> 01:42:58,320
that our military has they they have to

2457
01:43:02,550 --> 01:43:00,400
have had a tic tac event

2458
01:43:04,390 --> 01:43:02,560
right they they must have

2459
01:43:05,430 --> 01:43:04,400
why aren't they

2460
01:43:09,270 --> 01:43:05,440
uh

2461
01:43:11,510 --> 01:43:09,280
speaking out about these current events

2462
01:43:13,750 --> 01:43:11,520
well you know there's a guy i saw last

2463
01:43:16,470 --> 01:43:13,760
night a chinese guy and he said you know

2464
01:43:17,990 --> 01:43:16,480
uh you know it's communist country it's

2465
01:43:20,149 --> 01:43:18,000
totalitarian

2466
01:43:21,910 --> 01:43:20,159
but you could talk about ufos because

2467
01:43:24,470 --> 01:43:21,920
it's part of their science

2468
01:43:25,669 --> 01:43:24,480
it's not a conspiracy it's not you know

2469
01:43:27,510 --> 01:43:25,679
it's actually part of science so you're

2470
01:43:29,030 --> 01:43:27,520
actually allowed to

2471
01:43:31,189 --> 01:43:29,040
research that

2472
01:43:32,470 --> 01:43:31,199
uh in russia it's just a blackout i mean

2473
01:43:34,390 --> 01:43:32,480
it's the russians

2474
01:43:35,910 --> 01:43:34,400
they're like we'll let the americans and

2475
01:43:37,109 --> 01:43:35,920
you know everyone and the british are

2476
01:43:39,270 --> 01:43:37,119
the same they're like forget it we're

2477
01:43:41,830 --> 01:43:39,280
not we're not talking about it

2478
01:43:43,990 --> 01:43:41,840
but because america has this giant

2479
01:43:45,750 --> 01:43:44,000
military-industrial complex that's

2480
01:43:47,189 --> 01:43:45,760
involved with private corporations and

2481
01:43:49,669 --> 01:43:47,199
of course all the technology is in

2482
01:43:51,590 --> 01:43:49,679
private corporation hands that way

2483
01:43:53,910 --> 01:43:51,600
congress can't get their hands on it not

2484
01:43:55,910 --> 01:43:53,920
that they really would anyway

2485
01:43:58,070 --> 01:43:55,920
but you know there's always that fresh

2486
01:43:59,830 --> 01:43:58,080
congressman or woman who will try you

2487
01:44:01,430 --> 01:43:59,840
know and then they get a knock on the

2488
01:44:03,750 --> 01:44:01,440
door and you know

2489
01:44:06,310 --> 01:44:03,760
they're threatened shut the hell up well

2490
01:44:09,350 --> 01:44:06,320
you bring up a great point though um

2491
01:44:11,990 --> 01:44:09,360
russia and china is one thing but canada

2492
01:44:13,910 --> 01:44:12,000
australia the united kingdom

2493
01:44:14,870 --> 01:44:13,920
uh france

2494
01:44:16,149 --> 01:44:14,880
uh

2495
01:44:19,270 --> 01:44:16,159
certainly

2496
01:44:21,830 --> 01:44:19,280
they have a huge interest in this but i

2497
01:44:22,790 --> 01:44:21,840
don't hear their politicians

2498
01:44:25,590 --> 01:44:22,800
uh

2499
01:44:28,229 --> 01:44:25,600
speaking about this at at any level when

2500
01:44:31,030 --> 01:44:28,239
you brought up marco rubio earlier

2501
01:44:34,390 --> 01:44:31,040
and and and my point is the simple one

2502
01:44:37,350 --> 01:44:34,400
marco rubio may not know anything but he

2503
01:44:40,870 --> 01:44:37,360
has an interest in it he's talking about

2504
01:44:41,510 --> 01:44:40,880
it i don't hear our allies talking about

2505
01:44:47,750 --> 01:44:41,520
it

2506
01:44:49,510 --> 01:44:47,760
why is that why

2507
01:44:51,910 --> 01:44:49,520
why aren't they

2508
01:44:53,590 --> 01:44:51,920
at the table with us

2509
01:44:55,510 --> 01:44:53,600
well i think

2510
01:44:57,669 --> 01:44:55,520
if i had to guess i mean marco rubio may

2511
01:44:59,990 --> 01:44:57,679
have a an interest in it

2512
01:45:00,950 --> 01:45:00,000
but i'm sure before he said word number

2513
01:45:03,669 --> 01:45:00,960
one

2514
01:45:05,910 --> 01:45:03,679
uh the dia the cia and and everybody

2515
01:45:07,510 --> 01:45:05,920
else in the alphabet city paid him a

2516
01:45:11,109 --> 01:45:07,520
visit and said here's what you can talk

2517
01:45:13,350 --> 01:45:11,119
about and here's what you cannot

2518
01:45:14,790 --> 01:45:13,360
and that's what they're you know my dad

2519
01:45:17,030 --> 01:45:14,800
told me that he's like oh yeah you know

2520
01:45:19,430 --> 01:45:17,040
nobody back in the in the 90s early

2521
01:45:22,070 --> 01:45:19,440
2000s nobody was talking about ufos in

2522
01:45:24,470 --> 01:45:22,080
congress it was taboo

2523
01:45:26,870 --> 01:45:24,480
and now all of a sudden you know

2524
01:45:29,109 --> 01:45:26,880
your question about england and uh

2525
01:45:31,590 --> 01:45:29,119
canada and australia and new zealand

2526
01:45:34,310 --> 01:45:31,600
they're all part of the general american

2527
01:45:36,550 --> 01:45:34,320
alliance as far as secret technology ufo

2528
01:45:39,590 --> 01:45:36,560
technology so they're letting they're

2529
01:45:41,669 --> 01:45:39,600
like oh no america you guys you know you

2530
01:45:44,390 --> 01:45:41,679
guys lead the point on this and russia

2531
01:45:46,790 --> 01:45:44,400
is just watching to see what happens

2532
01:45:48,550 --> 01:45:46,800
because you know

2533
01:45:50,470 --> 01:45:48,560
they want to create this new narrative

2534
01:45:53,350 --> 01:45:50,480
that's kind of a nothing burger

2535
01:45:55,109 --> 01:45:53,360
uh and oh they're just ours and you know

2536
01:45:56,629 --> 01:45:55,119
e.t had very there's you know there

2537
01:45:59,030 --> 01:45:56,639
might be somebody out there we're not

2538
01:46:00,070 --> 01:45:59,040
sure you know some lie

2539
01:46:01,430 --> 01:46:00,080
and

2540
01:46:02,550 --> 01:46:01,440
then they have to control the narrative

2541
01:46:04,790 --> 01:46:02,560
again

2542
01:46:06,950 --> 01:46:04,800
but you know because most people 98

2543
01:46:08,950 --> 01:46:06,960
percent of the people on earth you know

2544
01:46:10,870 --> 01:46:08,960
they don't they listen to the news and

2545
01:46:12,550 --> 01:46:10,880
they don't listen to the disclosure

2546
01:46:13,830 --> 01:46:12,560
movement or you and me or you know they

2547
01:46:16,070 --> 01:46:13,840
don't do they don't do that we're the

2548
01:46:18,390 --> 01:46:16,080
fringe or the nut jobs

2549
01:46:20,709 --> 01:46:18,400
so you know the cia and everybody the di

2550
01:46:23,109 --> 01:46:20,719
they don't have to work that hard

2551
01:46:27,109 --> 01:46:23,119
but it's slowly changing

2552
01:46:28,790 --> 01:46:27,119
and i wouldn't have uh you know in 2012

2553
01:46:30,229 --> 01:46:28,800
i think i heard stephen greer mention my

2554
01:46:32,470 --> 01:46:30,239
father i was just listening on the

2555
01:46:34,790 --> 01:46:32,480
internet i couldn't believe it and then

2556
01:46:36,790 --> 01:46:34,800
in 2017 chris mellon came forward and

2557
01:46:39,030 --> 01:46:36,800
i'm like oh my god okay i think the

2558
01:46:40,790 --> 01:46:39,040
cosmos is trying to give me a message so

2559
01:46:42,229 --> 01:46:40,800
i never wanted to

2560
01:46:44,790 --> 01:46:42,239
come forward publicly you know i'm a

2561
01:46:47,350 --> 01:46:44,800
private person my wife and i live a very

2562
01:46:48,950 --> 01:46:47,360
quiet life usually and

2563
01:46:51,030 --> 01:46:48,960
but man when they got up there and

2564
01:46:52,790 --> 01:46:51,040
started lying and shifting the narrative

2565
01:46:55,750 --> 01:46:52,800
and doing all this project blue book

2566
01:46:58,310 --> 01:46:55,760
nonsense you know even my dad was like

2567
01:47:00,709 --> 01:46:58,320
you need to do what you got to do

2568
01:47:02,070 --> 01:47:00,719
now uh

2569
01:47:08,709 --> 01:47:02,080
the

2570
01:47:10,709 --> 01:47:08,719
force report we were all anticipating

2571
01:47:12,070 --> 01:47:10,719
this and we all read it as soon as it

2572
01:47:13,669 --> 01:47:12,080
was released

2573
01:47:15,270 --> 01:47:13,679
and and now we know that there's two

2574
01:47:18,070 --> 01:47:15,280
versions there's the public version

2575
01:47:20,070 --> 01:47:18,080
there's the classified version

2576
01:47:21,990 --> 01:47:20,080
what do you think that the senate

2577
01:47:23,430 --> 01:47:22,000
intelligence committee and others on

2578
01:47:24,310 --> 01:47:23,440
capitol hill

2579
01:47:27,590 --> 01:47:24,320
um

2580
01:47:29,109 --> 01:47:27,600
got to see in the classified version of

2581
01:47:32,470 --> 01:47:29,119
the report what do you think was in

2582
01:47:35,030 --> 01:47:32,480
there and were you privy to any of the

2583
01:47:38,070 --> 01:47:35,040
classified elements

2584
01:47:39,910 --> 01:47:38,080
i wasn't pretty to them uh i studied you

2585
01:47:41,830 --> 01:47:39,920
know history and

2586
01:47:43,669 --> 01:47:41,840
you know the history military history

2587
01:47:45,510 --> 01:47:43,679
and everything i pieced it all together

2588
01:47:48,070 --> 01:47:45,520
from outside sources you know

2589
01:47:49,910 --> 01:47:48,080
they probably get the same thin file my

2590
01:47:53,189 --> 01:47:49,920
dad got and it's like look we have some

2591
01:47:55,189 --> 01:47:53,199
stuff at area 51 maybe tonipah you know

2592
01:47:57,590 --> 01:47:55,199
they might mention that and corporations

2593
01:48:00,229 --> 01:47:57,600
have some interesting technology and you

2594
01:48:01,750 --> 01:48:00,239
need to pass the black budget even

2595
01:48:03,270 --> 01:48:01,760
though there's a secret black budget

2596
01:48:05,350 --> 01:48:03,280
that's in the trillions you know every

2597
01:48:07,510 --> 01:48:05,360
year probably i think

2598
01:48:10,310 --> 01:48:07,520
catherine austin fitz

2599
01:48:12,390 --> 01:48:10,320
predicts it's probably more like the gdp

2600
01:48:15,750 --> 01:48:12,400
of america is more like

2601
01:48:18,310 --> 01:48:15,760
20 25 trillion in a year

2602
01:48:21,189 --> 01:48:18,320
but that all goes to you know military

2603
01:48:23,189 --> 01:48:21,199
and national security state but congress

2604
01:48:24,390 --> 01:48:23,199
has never been

2605
01:48:26,950 --> 01:48:24,400
a place

2606
01:48:28,149 --> 01:48:26,960
uh that any kind of disclosure was ever

2607
01:48:29,669 --> 01:48:28,159
going to happen

2608
01:48:31,350 --> 01:48:29,679
i mean i'm sorry

2609
01:48:32,390 --> 01:48:31,360
they're not the brightest bulbs in the

2610
01:48:34,950 --> 01:48:32,400
universe

2611
01:48:37,910 --> 01:48:34,960
uh you know the their

2612
01:48:39,270 --> 01:48:37,920
elections from senator up to president

2613
01:48:40,790 --> 01:48:39,280
are very well

2614
01:48:42,470 --> 01:48:40,800
you know engineered you know we don't

2615
01:48:44,709 --> 01:48:42,480
have a choice we have the with the

2616
01:48:46,950 --> 01:48:44,719
illusion of choice in america

2617
01:48:48,629 --> 01:48:46,960
maybe some congress that aren't

2618
01:48:50,709 --> 01:48:48,639
sensitive but if you are a congressman

2619
01:48:53,109 --> 01:48:50,719
in a sensitive military area you better

2620
01:48:54,070 --> 01:48:53,119
believe they'll put someone in who plays

2621
01:48:55,669 --> 01:48:54,080
ball

2622
01:48:59,350 --> 01:48:55,679
and there's a you know dog and pony show

2623
01:49:02,229 --> 01:48:59,360
election but you know it's nonsense

2624
01:49:03,750 --> 01:49:02,239
that's that is extremely interesting to

2625
01:49:05,189 --> 01:49:03,760
me and

2626
01:49:08,229 --> 01:49:05,199
with uh

2627
01:49:13,109 --> 01:49:08,239
your own experience uh with your father

2628
01:49:14,629 --> 01:49:13,119
as uh what four five term senator

2629
01:49:17,669 --> 01:49:14,639
would he

2630
01:49:20,149 --> 01:49:17,679
uh or somebody like him

2631
01:49:23,270 --> 01:49:20,159
if they had the energy

2632
01:49:25,669 --> 01:49:23,280
do they have the ability to get at what

2633
01:49:27,669 --> 01:49:25,679
is going on or is it just completely off

2634
01:49:30,310 --> 01:49:27,679
limits and walled off

2635
01:49:31,270 --> 01:49:30,320
it's completely off limits unless you

2636
01:49:33,149 --> 01:49:31,280
are

2637
01:49:35,990 --> 01:49:33,159
specifically read in remember

2638
01:49:39,350 --> 01:49:36,000
compartmentalization is an ironclad tool

2639
01:49:40,310 --> 01:49:39,360
works great it works like an irish charm

2640
01:49:41,189 --> 01:49:40,320
and so

2641
01:49:43,109 --> 01:49:41,199
you know

2642
01:49:45,270 --> 01:49:43,119
some people are read in on this that and

2643
01:49:46,550 --> 01:49:45,280
the other but it's you know very

2644
01:49:48,550 --> 01:49:46,560
specific

2645
01:49:49,910 --> 01:49:48,560
like my dad knew a few things he told me

2646
01:49:51,669 --> 01:49:49,920
but it's like

2647
01:49:53,030 --> 01:49:51,679
it's what you know all the stuff i'm

2648
01:49:55,669 --> 01:49:53,040
talking about he's like i've never heard

2649
01:49:57,109 --> 01:49:55,679
of that and i'm like well now you have

2650
01:49:58,870 --> 01:49:57,119
you know and

2651
01:50:00,870 --> 01:49:58,880
you know so they're very careful but

2652
01:50:03,510 --> 01:50:00,880
they've been doing this for since world

2653
01:50:05,270 --> 01:50:03,520
war ii i mean they've got it down pat

2654
01:50:06,870 --> 01:50:05,280
security i've heard you know stephen

2655
01:50:08,950 --> 01:50:06,880
grier says it and i believe it the

2656
01:50:11,990 --> 01:50:08,960
security of the national security state

2657
01:50:13,189 --> 01:50:12,000
cost seven times the the r d of the ufo

2658
01:50:15,109 --> 01:50:13,199
technology

2659
01:50:16,070 --> 01:50:15,119
so that's how much security surrounds

2660
01:50:17,990 --> 01:50:16,080
this

2661
01:50:19,430 --> 01:50:18,000
but again you know they're doing

2662
01:50:21,189 --> 01:50:19,440
something

2663
01:50:23,030 --> 01:50:21,199
somebody's pressuring them you've got to

2664
01:50:24,390 --> 01:50:23,040
do something

2665
01:50:26,390 --> 01:50:24,400
and but

2666
01:50:28,070 --> 01:50:26,400
make it next to nothing as close as

2667
01:50:29,669 --> 01:50:28,080
possible you know and that's what

2668
01:50:31,750 --> 01:50:29,679
they've done it's

2669
01:50:34,950 --> 01:50:31,760
they're talking

2670
01:50:37,189 --> 01:50:34,960
saying very little

2671
01:50:38,709 --> 01:50:37,199
and to ufo disclosure people it's like

2672
01:50:41,030 --> 01:50:38,719
almost nothing

2673
01:50:43,030 --> 01:50:41,040
a tic tac sighting the navy doesn't know

2674
01:50:45,109 --> 01:50:43,040
what they are that's a lie

2675
01:50:47,910 --> 01:50:45,119
you know i mean it's just a lie and you

2676
01:50:49,270 --> 01:50:47,920
know we we use et technology every day

2677
01:50:51,189 --> 01:50:49,280
fiber optics

2678
01:50:53,830 --> 01:50:51,199
chips ballistic glass cell phones

2679
01:50:55,910 --> 01:50:53,840
smartphones our smartphones are smarter

2680
01:50:57,750 --> 01:50:55,920
than anything else

2681
01:50:59,109 --> 01:50:57,760
because they have spyware

2682
01:51:00,950 --> 01:50:59,119
but you know

2683
01:51:02,709 --> 01:51:00,960
it's unbelievable the stuff my favorite

2684
01:51:04,550 --> 01:51:02,719
is cling wrap

2685
01:51:06,070 --> 01:51:04,560
an airspace guy told me that i was in a

2686
01:51:07,430 --> 01:51:06,080
cocktail party and we were talking about

2687
01:51:09,270 --> 01:51:07,440
torsion field generators and

2688
01:51:10,870 --> 01:51:09,280
anti-gravity you know he was just

2689
01:51:12,790 --> 01:51:10,880
nodding and i said what's your favorite

2690
01:51:14,870 --> 01:51:12,800
et back engineer technology he's like

2691
01:51:15,750 --> 01:51:14,880
believe it or not cling wrap reynolds

2692
01:51:18,870 --> 01:51:15,760
wrap

2693
01:51:20,870 --> 01:51:18,880
yeah i don't know the plastic yeah your

2694
01:51:22,550 --> 01:51:20,880
plastic wrap and you you seal it around

2695
01:51:25,430 --> 01:51:22,560
the edges of the bowl

2696
01:51:26,709 --> 01:51:25,440
apparently they got that from from e.t i

2697
01:51:27,990 --> 01:51:26,719
don't know what they use it for in the

2698
01:51:30,709 --> 01:51:28,000
military or whatever you know but i

2699
01:51:32,390 --> 01:51:30,719
think that's funny they productize

2700
01:51:34,149 --> 01:51:32,400
all this technology and they sell it

2701
01:51:37,270 --> 01:51:34,159
back to us even though the american

2702
01:51:41,589 --> 01:51:37,280
people have paid for this r d

2703
01:51:43,910 --> 01:51:41,599
over the decades 10 times over or more

2704
01:51:45,430 --> 01:51:43,920
that's part of what the dirty laundry

2705
01:51:46,870 --> 01:51:45,440
they want to keep secret

2706
01:51:48,629 --> 01:51:46,880
is the money

2707
01:51:50,870 --> 01:51:48,639
and the bank fraud that pays for this

2708
01:51:53,109 --> 01:51:50,880
the secret black budgets you know our

2709
01:51:54,149 --> 01:51:53,119
roads and schools and and bridges go to

2710
01:51:57,669 --> 01:51:54,159
hell

2711
01:52:01,510 --> 01:51:59,189
what are we really good at you know

2712
01:52:03,189 --> 01:52:01,520
america's day job is military you know

2713
01:52:05,109 --> 01:52:03,199
washington dc is one of three

2714
01:52:07,669 --> 01:52:05,119
city-states in the world there's

2715
01:52:10,229 --> 01:52:07,679
you know rome the vatican the city of

2716
01:52:12,870 --> 01:52:10,239
london and washington dc three

2717
01:52:15,030 --> 01:52:12,880
city-states and we're the military yeah

2718
01:52:17,669 --> 01:52:15,040
you can throw los angeles in there you

2719
01:52:20,310 --> 01:52:17,679
throw los angeles in too um

2720
01:52:23,270 --> 01:52:20,320
uh i don't want to disclose

2721
01:52:25,270 --> 01:52:23,280
uh a whole lot here but i'm going to say

2722
01:52:28,310 --> 01:52:25,280
this in a general term

2723
01:52:31,990 --> 01:52:28,320
uh to to frame the question

2724
01:52:34,229 --> 01:52:32,000
um you and i are part of a little

2725
01:52:36,390 --> 01:52:34,239
private email group

2726
01:52:37,990 --> 01:52:36,400
and it's great and the conversations

2727
01:52:40,709 --> 01:52:38,000
that go on there

2728
01:52:43,990 --> 01:52:40,719
are are fantastic entertaining too as

2729
01:52:46,390 --> 01:52:44,000
well i i get a lot of great laughter out

2730
01:52:48,470 --> 01:52:46,400
of it but a lot of technical information

2731
01:52:49,669 --> 01:52:48,480
is there and i'm that's as far as i'm

2732
01:52:52,629 --> 01:52:49,679
going to go

2733
01:52:53,830 --> 01:52:52,639
but a lot of the conversation in this

2734
01:52:57,830 --> 01:52:53,840
group

2735
01:52:59,109 --> 01:52:57,840
with some of the biggest names uh

2736
01:53:02,390 --> 01:52:59,119
out there

2737
01:53:04,470 --> 01:53:02,400
um and there's also some agencies that

2738
01:53:06,709 --> 01:53:04,480
that are that are part of that list too

2739
01:53:09,910 --> 01:53:06,719
as well i find that very interesting

2740
01:53:13,189 --> 01:53:09,920
but the conversation goes back and forth

2741
01:53:15,030 --> 01:53:13,199
about the physics of the tic tac the

2742
01:53:16,790 --> 01:53:15,040
propulsion systems

2743
01:53:20,149 --> 01:53:16,800
and that uh

2744
01:53:22,550 --> 01:53:20,159
this is back engineered technology and

2745
01:53:24,790 --> 01:53:22,560
then there's the other side the other

2746
01:53:28,470 --> 01:53:24,800
part of this group of hours

2747
01:53:29,350 --> 01:53:28,480
um that says it's et um uh from the word

2748
01:53:32,470 --> 01:53:29,360
go

2749
01:53:34,550 --> 01:53:32,480
and that it's not backwards uh tech and

2750
01:53:36,390 --> 01:53:34,560
i've seen your chats in there but i'm

2751
01:53:39,030 --> 01:53:36,400
gonna ask you directly

2752
01:53:43,350 --> 01:53:39,040
do you feel that they eat uh the the tic

2753
01:53:45,430 --> 01:53:43,360
tac is e.t that's it from outside of our

2754
01:53:48,790 --> 01:53:45,440
star system visiting us

2755
01:53:52,390 --> 01:53:48,800
or is it backwards engineered uh

2756
01:53:56,229 --> 01:53:54,310
i think a good portion of it is back

2757
01:53:58,470 --> 01:53:56,239
engineered but that's i don't want to

2758
01:54:00,709 --> 01:53:58,480
discount our engineers and our aerospace

2759
01:54:03,350 --> 01:54:00,719
companies they're damn good

2760
01:54:05,990 --> 01:54:03,360
and so it's like a car company in the

2761
01:54:07,750 --> 01:54:06,000
50s oh my gosh mercedes has this new car

2762
01:54:09,750 --> 01:54:07,760
with fuel injection and they ship one

2763
01:54:12,149 --> 01:54:09,760
over the states and gm engineers are

2764
01:54:13,910 --> 01:54:12,159
looking at it and they take

2765
01:54:16,070 --> 01:54:13,920
the good parts

2766
01:54:18,070 --> 01:54:16,080
that works for them and then they make

2767
01:54:19,830 --> 01:54:18,080
their own thing

2768
01:54:21,510 --> 01:54:19,840
and so i think that's what's going on

2769
01:54:23,910 --> 01:54:21,520
here it's like you know we're not stupid

2770
01:54:26,390 --> 01:54:23,920
we're we're very creative you know the

2771
01:54:28,470 --> 01:54:26,400
word is out there amongst the galaxy and

2772
01:54:30,149 --> 01:54:28,480
the et's it's like you know those earth

2773
01:54:32,149 --> 01:54:30,159
people are violent but they're really

2774
01:54:33,109 --> 01:54:32,159
creative you know they have great music

2775
01:54:34,709 --> 01:54:33,119
yeah

2776
01:54:36,229 --> 01:54:34,719
tv you know

2777
01:54:38,709 --> 01:54:36,239
but it's like we're pretty good

2778
01:54:40,709 --> 01:54:38,719
engineers yeah and we can take stuff

2779
01:54:42,550 --> 01:54:40,719
it's like going to a junkyard

2780
01:54:44,149 --> 01:54:42,560
and it's like well you know you pick up

2781
01:54:46,149 --> 01:54:44,159
an engine block and i pick up an old

2782
01:54:47,910 --> 01:54:46,159
transmission and we rebuild them and

2783
01:54:49,589 --> 01:54:47,920
make them better

2784
01:54:51,510 --> 01:54:49,599
and it's like people are out there you

2785
01:54:53,750 --> 01:54:51,520
know there's stories you know

2786
01:54:55,750 --> 01:54:53,760
they say you know wow

2787
01:54:57,750 --> 01:54:55,760
you guys aren't such idiots after all

2788
01:54:59,430 --> 01:54:57,760
you that we give you junk

2789
01:55:00,629 --> 01:54:59,440
and you guys turn it into something

2790
01:55:02,229 --> 01:55:00,639
really good

2791
01:55:03,990 --> 01:55:02,239
it may not be the most advanced thing

2792
01:55:06,950 --> 01:55:04,000
out there with consciousness you know

2793
01:55:09,430 --> 01:55:06,960
some ufos are grown from e.t

2794
01:55:12,070 --> 01:55:09,440
from their own dna so that the ship is a

2795
01:55:14,149 --> 01:55:12,080
living being and it's part of you

2796
01:55:15,750 --> 01:55:14,159
that's that's the way to travel in style

2797
01:55:17,990 --> 01:55:15,760
through the cosmos you know the

2798
01:55:20,070 --> 01:55:18,000
biosphere inside it's made from your own

2799
01:55:21,350 --> 01:55:20,080
dna you know our stuff is more nuts and

2800
01:55:23,030 --> 01:55:21,360
bolts

2801
01:55:24,950 --> 01:55:23,040
you know it's got a big block chevy in

2802
01:55:27,510 --> 01:55:24,960
it with two four barrels

2803
01:55:29,669 --> 01:55:27,520
you know but it does work

2804
01:55:31,430 --> 01:55:29,679
and it's a i think it's a combination it

2805
01:55:32,870 --> 01:55:31,440
always has been the early days they

2806
01:55:35,109 --> 01:55:32,880
might have copied the blueprints

2807
01:55:37,589 --> 01:55:35,119
verbatim the germans figured it out but

2808
01:55:40,149 --> 01:55:37,599
even the german flying saucers

2809
01:55:42,070 --> 01:55:40,159
the hanabus you know they had incredible

2810
01:55:43,589 --> 01:55:42,080
radiation problems

2811
01:55:45,189 --> 01:55:43,599
the first cruise you know the stories

2812
01:55:47,350 --> 01:55:45,199
are that the first crews were really

2813
01:55:48,870 --> 01:55:47,360
damaged which i think they were getting

2814
01:55:51,350 --> 01:55:48,880
a raw deal wherever they got the

2815
01:55:53,270 --> 01:55:51,360
blueprints from and you know

2816
01:55:54,950 --> 01:55:53,280
you know you need you can't just hand

2817
01:55:57,510 --> 01:55:54,960
it's like handing general grant a

2818
01:55:59,510 --> 01:55:57,520
nuclear submarine in the civil war

2819
01:56:01,350 --> 01:55:59,520
and it's like he'd be like okay this is

2820
01:56:03,669 --> 01:56:01,360
great thank you but how the hell does it

2821
01:56:04,629 --> 01:56:03,679
work and show us how to fix it and use

2822
01:56:06,950 --> 01:56:04,639
it

2823
01:56:08,790 --> 01:56:06,960
and so you need advisors

2824
01:56:10,390 --> 01:56:08,800
it's just there's you could channel

2825
01:56:12,709 --> 01:56:10,400
information psychically you could talk

2826
01:56:14,870 --> 01:56:12,719
to an et but you need advisors boots on

2827
01:56:17,910 --> 01:56:14,880
the ground who say don't put that bolt

2828
01:56:20,629 --> 01:56:17,920
here do it here and make it flush

2829
01:56:22,870 --> 01:56:20,639
well there's uh uh

2830
01:56:25,270 --> 01:56:22,880
if you look at tardigrades for example

2831
01:56:26,950 --> 01:56:25,280
they can survive in space and in harsh

2832
01:56:29,589 --> 01:56:26,960
radiation but there are species

2833
01:56:32,629 --> 01:56:29,599
indigenous here on on planet earth

2834
01:56:33,510 --> 01:56:32,639
um maybe those plans

2835
01:56:35,830 --> 01:56:33,520
were

2836
01:56:38,229 --> 01:56:35,840
for a species that wasn't affected by

2837
01:56:39,030 --> 01:56:38,239
radiation to them it wasn't a big deal

2838
01:56:41,589 --> 01:56:39,040
it

2839
01:56:43,669 --> 01:56:41,599
certainly affected us but

2840
01:56:46,550 --> 01:56:43,679
that was always one way to look at it uh

2841
01:56:48,870 --> 01:56:46,560
for me uh going back to that and and

2842
01:56:51,910 --> 01:56:48,880
staying on this though um

2843
01:56:56,229 --> 01:56:51,920
uh i'm asking directly

2844
01:56:57,350 --> 01:56:56,239
if if the tic tac is backwards alien

2845
01:56:58,709 --> 01:56:57,360
tech

2846
01:57:00,310 --> 01:56:58,719
and it

2847
01:57:02,390 --> 01:57:00,320
it's ours

2848
01:57:04,070 --> 01:57:02,400
i'm talking about the tic tac

2849
01:57:05,030 --> 01:57:04,080
why wouldn't

2850
01:57:09,990 --> 01:57:05,040
uh

2851
01:57:11,510 --> 01:57:10,000
or kevin day or the cruise of the nimitz

2852
01:57:13,669 --> 01:57:11,520
carrier group

2853
01:57:15,189 --> 01:57:13,679
been made aware of

2854
01:57:17,750 --> 01:57:15,199
of the testing

2855
01:57:19,109 --> 01:57:17,760
of this technology on on their battle

2856
01:57:21,109 --> 01:57:19,119
group

2857
01:57:23,109 --> 01:57:21,119
oh it that's that it's been going on

2858
01:57:24,390 --> 01:57:23,119
forever

2859
01:57:28,790 --> 01:57:24,400
um

2860
01:57:31,030 --> 01:57:28,800
the air force and and army and navy they

2861
01:57:32,870 --> 01:57:31,040
they're all rivals you know so

2862
01:57:34,870 --> 01:57:32,880
you can have this tic tac coming out of

2863
01:57:37,270 --> 01:57:34,880
lockheed martin and they're like you

2864
01:57:38,950 --> 01:57:37,280
know there's probably the admiral on

2865
01:57:41,350 --> 01:57:38,960
board the carrier maybe the captain a

2866
01:57:43,750 --> 01:57:41,360
few other officers who are aware

2867
01:57:45,430 --> 01:57:43,760
and maybe some enlisted as well

2868
01:57:48,149 --> 01:57:45,440
but very few

2869
01:57:49,830 --> 01:57:48,159
and they test it and the pilots go wild

2870
01:57:49,830 --> 01:57:50,870
you know they're like holy cow you know

2871
01:57:54,229 --> 01:57:52,070
you know and everything that's been

2872
01:57:55,750 --> 01:57:54,239
going on for a long time apparently you

2873
01:57:58,470 --> 01:57:55,760
know you test new stuff and you get the

2874
01:58:00,629 --> 01:57:58,480
reaction from your own guys first

2875
01:58:03,589 --> 01:58:00,639
and i think they released all that video

2876
01:58:05,669 --> 01:58:03,599
because it was old 2004 it had already

2877
01:58:08,229 --> 01:58:05,679
been on the internet by the way

2878
01:58:10,310 --> 01:58:08,239
yes it was on cnn you know it was

2879
01:58:13,189 --> 01:58:10,320
already on the internet so it was kind

2880
01:58:15,350 --> 01:58:13,199
of a lame thing but you know at least

2881
01:58:16,470 --> 01:58:15,360
they brought it out they got this dead

2882
01:58:18,390 --> 01:58:16,480
subject

2883
01:58:20,790 --> 01:58:18,400
out where people can talk about it and

2884
01:58:22,790 --> 01:58:20,800
they've kept at it i give my cousin

2885
01:58:25,109 --> 01:58:22,800
chris millen and lou elizondo and the

2886
01:58:26,390 --> 01:58:25,119
other people in the military credit

2887
01:58:29,189 --> 01:58:26,400
for at least

2888
01:58:31,270 --> 01:58:29,199
you know giving the subject some

2889
01:58:33,830 --> 01:58:31,280
you know notoriety and putting some

2890
01:58:35,589 --> 01:58:33,840
spotlights on it but that's an old trick

2891
01:58:37,189 --> 01:58:35,599
you know oh let's test it and scare the

2892
01:58:39,910 --> 01:58:37,199
navy guys you know

2893
01:58:41,669 --> 01:58:39,920
do you anticipate um and i've heard the

2894
01:58:42,550 --> 01:58:41,679
chatter uh

2895
01:58:46,709 --> 01:58:42,560
from

2896
01:58:49,189 --> 01:58:46,719
that the navy and the department of

2897
01:58:52,070 --> 01:58:49,199
defense will eventually come out

2898
01:58:53,870 --> 01:58:52,080
and give a benign explanation to the tic

2899
01:58:57,510 --> 01:58:53,880
tac that's not going to be

2900
01:58:59,350 --> 01:58:57,520
extraterrestrial that it will be uh our

2901
01:59:01,669 --> 01:58:59,360
technology and

2902
01:59:04,709 --> 01:59:01,679
and eventually they're going to poo poo

2903
01:59:07,589 --> 01:59:04,719
the entire tic tac event

2904
01:59:08,950 --> 01:59:07,599
yeah that they they will not because

2905
01:59:10,870 --> 01:59:08,960
uh

2906
01:59:12,310 --> 01:59:10,880
first of all there's a grain of truth

2907
01:59:14,149 --> 01:59:12,320
you know they always say there's a

2908
01:59:16,629 --> 01:59:14,159
threat out there and they kind of maybe

2909
01:59:18,550 --> 01:59:16,639
the chinese the russians maybe e.t

2910
01:59:20,870 --> 01:59:18,560
you know verna von braun warned us about

2911
01:59:22,550 --> 01:59:20,880
this false flag you know operation

2912
01:59:23,830 --> 01:59:22,560
that's been a plan in the works since

2913
01:59:25,910 --> 01:59:23,840
the 50s

2914
01:59:27,830 --> 01:59:25,920
but you know fear works

2915
01:59:30,629 --> 01:59:27,840
fantastic the nazis figured that out

2916
01:59:32,310 --> 01:59:30,639
through goebbels and propaganda fear

2917
01:59:35,750 --> 01:59:32,320
people fall in line you know if you

2918
01:59:37,589 --> 01:59:35,760
scare them enough but americans

2919
01:59:39,510 --> 01:59:37,599
i can only speak for virginians but you

2920
01:59:41,350 --> 01:59:39,520
know they're not going to be scared that

2921
01:59:42,629 --> 01:59:41,360
all that scared about some e.t threat

2922
01:59:45,030 --> 01:59:42,639
they'll be out there on their porches

2923
01:59:47,030 --> 01:59:45,040
with you know shotguns and anti-aircraft

2924
01:59:48,390 --> 01:59:47,040
batteries and humvees they'll be ready

2925
01:59:51,030 --> 01:59:48,400
to go they're not going to be scared you

2926
01:59:52,790 --> 01:59:51,040
know 911 didn't scare us it galvanized

2927
01:59:56,070 --> 01:59:52,800
this country

2928
01:59:57,750 --> 01:59:56,080
do you want firsthand yeah and

2929
02:00:01,510 --> 01:59:57,760
as we head into the break this has been

2930
02:00:03,189 --> 02:00:01,520
a great conversation um oh oh oh oh oh

2931
02:00:04,790 --> 02:00:03,199
no no i've got a different question

2932
02:00:07,430 --> 02:00:04,800
we're gonna go sideways we'll get back

2933
02:00:08,950 --> 02:00:07,440
to ufos when we come back but i have to

2934
02:00:10,390 --> 02:00:08,960
ask you

2935
02:00:14,310 --> 02:00:10,400
the greatest

2936
02:00:15,830 --> 02:00:14,320
car motor ever designed

2937
02:00:18,310 --> 02:00:15,840
what is it

2938
02:00:20,070 --> 02:00:18,320
oh my gosh automobile yeah yeah there's

2939
02:00:23,430 --> 02:00:20,080
only for you there's only going to be

2940
02:00:25,270 --> 02:00:23,440
what comes to mind first oh for me

2941
02:00:28,070 --> 02:00:25,280
personally

2942
02:00:29,910 --> 02:00:28,080
um the greatest

2943
02:00:32,870 --> 02:00:29,920
man that's tough i i'd have to say i had

2944
02:00:35,030 --> 02:00:32,880
a packard 1936 packard with a 12

2945
02:00:37,589 --> 02:00:35,040
cylinder in it now packard made all the

2946
02:00:39,830 --> 02:00:37,599
pt boat engines of world war ii and the

2947
02:00:41,669 --> 02:00:39,840
rolls-royce merlin under license because

2948
02:00:43,589 --> 02:00:41,679
they were the best engine builders in

2949
02:00:45,589 --> 02:00:43,599
america and

2950
02:00:46,470 --> 02:00:45,599
general uh

2951
02:00:50,470 --> 02:00:46,480
uh

2952
02:00:55,350 --> 02:00:53,109
macarthur a big hat corncob

2953
02:00:56,709 --> 02:00:55,360
macarthur yeah macarthur said thank god

2954
02:00:58,870 --> 02:00:56,719
for packard entrance because they

2955
02:01:00,070 --> 02:00:58,880
rescued him in a pt boat that's right

2956
02:01:02,550 --> 02:01:00,080
that's right

2957
02:01:04,229 --> 02:01:02,560
so i'd have to say the packer 12 it was

2958
02:01:06,550 --> 02:01:04,239
the packard uh

2959
02:01:09,270 --> 02:01:06,560
they built marine engines aircraft they

2960
02:01:11,030 --> 02:01:09,280
were an amazing company yeah and uh

2961
02:01:13,350 --> 02:01:11,040
based in indiana

2962
02:01:15,669 --> 02:01:13,360
that's a that's a hoosier product

2963
02:01:19,750 --> 02:01:15,679
yeah yeah packard duesenberg uh

2964
02:01:22,149 --> 02:01:19,760
studebaker uh auburn yeah all out of uh

2965
02:01:25,109 --> 02:01:22,159
auburn indiana actually see i told you i

2966
02:01:26,390 --> 02:01:25,119
knew my cars but i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm

2967
02:01:28,550 --> 02:01:26,400
gonna you know i have to ask you one

2968
02:01:31,270 --> 02:01:28,560
question sure have you ever have you

2969
02:01:34,229 --> 02:01:31,280
ever done a wolfman jack impersonation

2970
02:01:36,790 --> 02:01:34,239
man everybody makes that reference and i

2971
02:01:39,350 --> 02:01:36,800
don't hear it you got the deep voice i

2972
02:01:41,910 --> 02:01:39,360
know i don't i don't hear it

2973
02:01:43,510 --> 02:01:41,920
there's not a day that's amazing i i

2974
02:01:45,350 --> 02:01:43,520
when i first heard you i don't know 10

2975
02:01:46,149 --> 02:01:45,360
years ago or whatever you came on yeah

2976
02:01:48,149 --> 02:01:46,159
you know

2977
02:01:50,470 --> 02:01:48,159
damn he's channeling wolf man

2978
02:01:51,669 --> 02:01:50,480
i hear it every day i don't hear it i

2979
02:01:53,589 --> 02:01:51,679
love

2980
02:01:55,830 --> 02:01:53,599
me some wolf man jack though he was

2981
02:01:57,669 --> 02:01:55,840
unique and you're unique but i i'm an

2982
02:01:59,830 --> 02:01:57,679
american graffiti guy i'm sure you are

2983
02:02:02,790 --> 02:01:59,840
too though i love that movie yeah yeah

2984
02:02:04,790 --> 02:02:02,800
i've got uh i've got uh the uh

2985
02:02:07,510 --> 02:02:04,800
the the ford coupe the yellow one that

2986
02:02:09,270 --> 02:02:07,520
harrison ford drove uh in the movie i

2987
02:02:12,629 --> 02:02:09,280
got oh i've got a model of it i don't

2988
02:02:15,030 --> 02:02:12,639
have the car oh i've got a model no no i

2989
02:02:16,310 --> 02:02:15,040
wonder where that car is today i wonder

2990
02:02:19,270 --> 02:02:16,320
who's got that

2991
02:02:20,870 --> 02:02:19,280
um if i'm going to go great engine

2992
02:02:22,550 --> 02:02:20,880
i'm going to go

2993
02:02:24,310 --> 02:02:22,560
the columbo

2994
02:02:27,669 --> 02:02:24,320
ferrari v12

2995
02:02:28,470 --> 02:02:27,679
yeah i'm going there 1958 57

2996
02:02:30,870 --> 02:02:28,480
and

2997
02:02:32,390 --> 02:02:30,880
i agree i have that engine in a 68

2998
02:02:35,430 --> 02:02:32,400
ferrari that i own

2999
02:02:37,589 --> 02:02:35,440
um it's a great engine um it's got no

3000
02:02:40,709 --> 02:02:37,599
low end torque i mean you got to rub the

3001
02:02:43,750 --> 02:02:40,719
crap out of that thing to get any power

3002
02:02:46,709 --> 02:02:43,760
um it only in 4.4 liters it only makes

3003
02:02:48,229 --> 02:02:46,719
280 horsepower on the dyno yeah we just

3004
02:02:50,390 --> 02:02:48,239
rebuilt the motor and we put it on the

3005
02:02:52,709 --> 02:02:50,400
dyno wait wait wait wait wait wait motor

3006
02:02:56,870 --> 02:02:52,719
but stop right there

3007
02:02:58,550 --> 02:02:56,880
you've got a 67 okay a 67 what

3008
02:03:00,550 --> 02:02:58,560
i have a 68

3009
02:03:02,950 --> 02:03:00,560
365 gt

3010
02:03:05,270 --> 02:03:02,960
it's the big two plus two i think it's

3011
02:03:07,750 --> 02:03:05,280
the most beautiful car there oh i love

3012
02:03:09,270 --> 02:03:07,760
that you've got to be kidding me

3013
02:03:11,510 --> 02:03:09,280
and you know what it's not fast by

3014
02:03:13,430 --> 02:03:11,520
today's standards but it's a glor

3015
02:03:15,750 --> 02:03:13,440
beautiful handling and

3016
02:03:18,310 --> 02:03:15,760
uh just you know even it was the first

3017
02:03:19,910 --> 02:03:18,320
ferrari with uh road ferrari i believe

3018
02:03:21,990 --> 02:03:19,920
with independent rear suspension and

3019
02:03:24,870 --> 02:03:22,000
power steering and that power steering

3020
02:03:26,629 --> 02:03:24,880
you'd barely even feel it and nothing

3021
02:03:30,950 --> 02:03:26,639
the lifters

3022
02:03:32,950 --> 02:03:30,960
the the cams the sound the chains

3023
02:03:35,750 --> 02:03:32,960
yeah that engine

3024
02:03:38,470 --> 02:03:35,760
it's like i'm a big watch collector all

3025
02:03:40,870 --> 02:03:38,480
automatic watches i've got a lot of them

3026
02:03:43,830 --> 02:03:40,880
and they remind it's the same thing it's

3027
02:03:46,470 --> 02:03:43,840
that mechanical clanking

3028
02:03:48,870 --> 02:03:46,480
glorious orchestration that happens

3029
02:03:50,790 --> 02:03:48,880
nothing sounds like that and yeah until

3030
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the oil warms up you can hear the the

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valve train clattering away oh i love it

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let's take our break right here this is

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fade to black i'm your host jimmy church

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i guess tonight john warner the fourth

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3135
02:08:47,189 --> 02:08:44,400
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

3136
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jimmy church tonight john warner iv i

3137
02:08:51,109 --> 02:08:49,840
had to get some car talk

3138
02:08:53,750 --> 02:08:51,119
and uh

3139
02:08:55,589 --> 02:08:53,760
watching the chat room uh i think

3140
02:08:56,709 --> 02:08:55,599
everybody agrees a little little car

3141
02:09:01,350 --> 02:08:56,719
talk

3142
02:09:03,910 --> 02:09:01,360
left off at the end of the ford uh 289

3143
02:09:06,470 --> 02:09:03,920
uh still i think that might be the best

3144
02:09:11,669 --> 02:09:06,480
the best uh the best engine ever all

3145
02:09:17,270 --> 02:09:13,350
i love the car

3146
02:09:20,069 --> 02:09:17,280
i had a 67 shelby gt500 mustang and i

3147
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had the 427 side oiler

3148
02:09:25,990 --> 02:09:22,560
with aluminum heads two four barrels oh

3149
02:09:28,149 --> 02:09:26,000
god it had a 600 lift cam with two

3150
02:09:29,910 --> 02:09:28,159
twin hollies i mean that thing had 700

3151
02:09:31,270 --> 02:09:29,920
horsepower but

3152
02:09:34,149 --> 02:09:31,280
you're right there's a small block in

3153
02:09:35,910 --> 02:09:34,159
the 60s the 289 was a sweet engine yeah

3154
02:09:37,669 --> 02:09:35,920
one lemon yeah

3155
02:09:41,109 --> 02:09:37,679
even in the 289.

3156
02:09:44,550 --> 02:09:41,119
that was my first car and uh i remember

3157
02:09:46,550 --> 02:09:44,560
uh my dad uh had a friend

3158
02:09:48,550 --> 02:09:46,560
and i'm in high school right

3159
02:09:50,149 --> 02:09:48,560
i just graduated high school and he goes

3160
02:09:51,189 --> 02:09:50,159
i got a friend that's got a mustang for

3161
02:09:55,750 --> 02:09:51,199
sale

3162
02:09:56,790 --> 02:09:55,760
and i bought a 1966 fastback uh 289 four

3163
02:09:59,350 --> 02:09:56,800
speed

3164
02:10:01,270 --> 02:09:59,360
i bought that car for like 250 bucks or

3165
02:10:04,310 --> 02:10:01,280
something 400 bucks

3166
02:10:07,189 --> 02:10:04,320
and and that

3167
02:10:09,750 --> 02:10:07,199
began my appreciation for the small

3168
02:10:11,669 --> 02:10:09,760
block and and what that car was it was

3169
02:10:14,069 --> 02:10:11,679
just incredible incredible

3170
02:10:16,950 --> 02:10:14,079
incredible and uh to this day i'm just a

3171
02:10:18,550 --> 02:10:16,960
ford guy you know i mean i am i am too

3172
02:10:21,189 --> 02:10:18,560
kind of a ford guy you know i had a

3173
02:10:23,510 --> 02:10:21,199
girlfriend who had a mustang in college

3174
02:10:27,270 --> 02:10:23,520
i'm not sure if i like the girl or the

3175
02:10:28,550 --> 02:10:27,280
car better pair it up i really like your

3176
02:10:31,830 --> 02:10:28,560
car

3177
02:10:32,790 --> 02:10:31,840
fair enough fair enough um now i want to

3178
02:10:39,990 --> 02:10:32,800
uh

3179
02:10:42,950 --> 02:10:40,000
what i believe oh wait can i interject

3180
02:10:45,109 --> 02:10:42,960
one second sure if it's about cars

3181
02:10:47,669 --> 02:10:45,119
trivia question sure

3182
02:10:50,629 --> 02:10:47,679
what is the first this is an et

3183
02:10:52,790 --> 02:10:50,639
technology apparently fiber optics okay

3184
02:10:54,550 --> 02:10:52,800
back engineer so what was the first car

3185
02:10:59,030 --> 02:10:54,560
to incorporate

3186
02:11:01,830 --> 02:10:59,040
uh

3187
02:11:04,950 --> 02:11:01,840
was that

3188
02:11:08,470 --> 02:11:04,960
was it chrysler was it the

3189
02:11:09,149 --> 02:11:08,480
the maserati lebaron convertible

3190
02:11:12,390 --> 02:11:09,159
no

3191
02:11:15,589 --> 02:11:12,400
1968 corvette had three warning lights

3192
02:11:16,790 --> 02:11:15,599
near near the gear shifter shut up

3193
02:11:19,109 --> 02:11:16,800
is that true

3194
02:11:20,950 --> 02:11:19,119
yeah now that i didn't know the first

3195
02:11:22,950 --> 02:11:20,960
car to have that

3196
02:11:26,470 --> 02:11:22,960
remember the astronauts got corvettes

3197
02:11:28,069 --> 02:11:26,480
and stuff i i think someone in in

3198
02:11:30,390 --> 02:11:28,079
i don't know where they were like let's

3199
02:11:31,750 --> 02:11:30,400
put some fiber optics in those cars and

3200
02:11:33,830 --> 02:11:31,760
gm was like what are we going to do with

3201
02:11:35,350 --> 02:11:33,840
this stuff you know

3202
02:11:37,109 --> 02:11:35,360
well let's make warning lights out of

3203
02:11:41,030 --> 02:11:37,119
them you know yeah i think all of those

3204
02:11:42,069 --> 02:11:41,040
astronauts uh had one too as well

3205
02:11:43,910 --> 02:11:42,079
um

3206
02:11:46,950 --> 02:11:43,920
i brought up the chrysler maserati

3207
02:11:49,669 --> 02:11:46,960
because they put in too many too much uh

3208
02:11:51,430 --> 02:11:49,679
gizmos in that car right it was it was

3209
02:11:54,229 --> 02:11:51,440
it was ahead of its time

3210
02:11:56,310 --> 02:11:54,239
uh but it just didn't work right and it

3211
02:11:57,669 --> 02:11:56,320
was ugly and it was like

3212
02:11:59,030 --> 02:11:57,679
ugly cars i don't care if they have a

3213
02:12:00,390 --> 02:11:59,040
thousand horsepower

3214
02:12:03,830 --> 02:12:00,400
right right

3215
02:12:05,109 --> 02:12:03,840
so um i want to talk about

3216
02:12:08,470 --> 02:12:05,119
uh

3217
02:12:11,510 --> 02:12:08,480
the secrecy of a space program that

3218
02:12:12,550 --> 02:12:11,520
that could be probably is going on right

3219
02:12:13,910 --> 02:12:12,560
now

3220
02:12:17,270 --> 02:12:13,920
and

3221
02:12:20,310 --> 02:12:17,280
it can be kept secret from the public

3222
02:12:21,830 --> 02:12:20,320
eye and i remind the audience uh

3223
02:12:24,709 --> 02:12:21,840
constantly

3224
02:12:28,790 --> 02:12:24,719
of the x-37b

3225
02:12:30,870 --> 02:12:28,800
and for the x-37b to fly

3226
02:12:34,149 --> 02:12:30,880
and to have a mission you've got

3227
02:12:37,109 --> 02:12:34,159
engineers pilots logistics support team

3228
02:12:40,629 --> 02:12:37,119
ground team space crew

3229
02:12:43,430 --> 02:12:40,639
and we know nothing about that program

3230
02:12:45,510 --> 02:12:43,440
and they have kept the lid on it and if

3231
02:12:46,550 --> 02:12:45,520
that is evidence of a secret space

3232
02:12:49,109 --> 02:12:46,560
program

3233
02:12:51,350 --> 02:12:49,119
you have to ask yourself what else is

3234
02:12:54,069 --> 02:12:51,360
going on that we don't know about

3235
02:12:55,910 --> 02:12:54,079
if the x-37b exists

3236
02:12:59,270 --> 02:12:55,920
do you think that there's a parallel

3237
02:13:00,629 --> 02:12:59,280
program going on with nasa and with jpl

3238
02:13:03,510 --> 02:13:00,639
and with the government

3239
02:13:04,950 --> 02:13:03,520
that the public doesn't know about

3240
02:13:07,030 --> 02:13:04,960
oh yeah

3241
02:13:08,950 --> 02:13:07,040
i mean you know our space program

3242
02:13:10,310 --> 02:13:08,960
started in the 40s white sands missile

3243
02:13:11,350 --> 02:13:10,320
base i mean

3244
02:13:13,910 --> 02:13:11,360
you know

3245
02:13:15,430 --> 02:13:13,920
uh sure there were et craft crashing

3246
02:13:17,109 --> 02:13:15,440
here and there but that's going to take

3247
02:13:19,750 --> 02:13:17,119
a long time to back engineer and get

3248
02:13:21,189 --> 02:13:19,760
somebody to fly but by all accounts by

3249
02:13:25,030 --> 02:13:21,199
the you know

3250
02:13:27,910 --> 02:13:25,040
57 55 we had stuff flying apparently the

3251
02:13:31,350 --> 02:13:27,920
germans had stuff flying first you know

3252
02:13:33,030 --> 02:13:31,360
the overflight of washington dc in 1952

3253
02:13:34,470 --> 02:13:33,040
you can still bring up the washington

3254
02:13:36,950 --> 02:13:34,480
post headline

3255
02:13:37,830 --> 02:13:36,960
the word is those were german

3256
02:13:39,189 --> 02:13:37,840
so

3257
02:13:41,189 --> 02:13:39,199
you know i

3258
02:13:43,189 --> 02:13:41,199
yes we've had a secret space program

3259
02:13:46,149 --> 02:13:43,199
there's no doubt about it

3260
02:13:48,870 --> 02:13:46,159
the question is how big is it

3261
02:13:51,270 --> 02:13:48,880
and it goes from mild to wild and uh you

3262
02:13:53,669 --> 02:13:51,280
know i'm at the end of the rail line i'm

3263
02:13:56,069 --> 02:13:53,679
it's like bigger the better

3264
02:13:57,030 --> 02:13:56,079
i think you know given william tompkins

3265
02:13:59,270 --> 02:13:57,040
book

3266
02:14:01,430 --> 02:13:59,280
and the fact that um you know my father

3267
02:14:02,790 --> 02:14:01,440
and i did a four-year request on admiral

3268
02:14:04,310 --> 02:14:02,800
rico boda

3269
02:14:07,109 --> 02:14:04,320
whom he mentioned

3270
02:14:10,069 --> 02:14:07,119
and uh the navy sent us one

3271
02:14:12,629 --> 02:14:10,079
page and my dad said they scrubbed this

3272
02:14:14,470 --> 02:14:12,639
guy from history

3273
02:14:16,149 --> 02:14:14,480
and william tompkins in his book he

3274
02:14:18,069 --> 02:14:16,159
posts a picture of some admirals that

3275
02:14:20,229 --> 02:14:18,079
helped him that's right

3276
02:14:21,990 --> 02:14:20,239
now my o and i friends they were like

3277
02:14:23,589 --> 02:14:22,000
well i don't know about william tompkins

3278
02:14:25,510 --> 02:14:23,599
but two of those two or three of those

3279
02:14:27,430 --> 02:14:25,520
admirals they knew them and they said

3280
02:14:31,189 --> 02:14:27,440
they would not be involved with william

3281
02:14:34,149 --> 02:14:31,199
tompkins unless he was legit

3282
02:14:36,390 --> 02:14:34,159
and let their pictures be put in there

3283
02:14:38,069 --> 02:14:36,400
so that's what i just want to put that

3284
02:14:40,709 --> 02:14:38,079
in because william thompkins lays out a

3285
02:14:42,470 --> 02:14:40,719
big story about our secret space program

3286
02:14:43,589 --> 02:14:42,480
and i think there's a lot of validity to

3287
02:14:45,350 --> 02:14:43,599
it

3288
02:14:47,350 --> 02:14:45,360
you know people can can

3289
02:14:49,830 --> 02:14:47,360
laugh at certain stories that sound

3290
02:14:51,830 --> 02:14:49,840
ridiculous you know nazis ufos and

3291
02:14:55,030 --> 02:14:51,840
aliens and all that stuff it does sound

3292
02:14:57,030 --> 02:14:55,040
ridiculous until you do the big picture

3293
02:14:59,430 --> 02:14:57,040
historical homework on it and then it

3294
02:15:01,910 --> 02:14:59,440
sounds a lot less ridiculous it sounds

3295
02:15:04,229 --> 02:15:01,920
very plausible even though it's

3296
02:15:06,470 --> 02:15:04,239
not in most people's reality

3297
02:15:08,470 --> 02:15:06,480
you know as you know in america i'd say

3298
02:15:09,830 --> 02:15:08,480
98 97

3299
02:15:11,510 --> 02:15:09,840
i don't know

3300
02:15:13,030 --> 02:15:11,520
they just don't care

3301
02:15:15,270 --> 02:15:13,040
now my friends are like i'm sure you're

3302
02:15:17,109 --> 02:15:15,280
telling the truth but i just don't care

3303
02:15:19,589 --> 02:15:17,119
ignorance is bliss and they're

3304
02:15:22,149 --> 02:15:19,599
distracted with a million things on

3305
02:15:24,069 --> 02:15:22,159
youtube and games and virtual reality

3306
02:15:25,109 --> 02:15:24,079
and tv netflix

3307
02:15:26,310 --> 02:15:25,119
you know and they

3308
02:15:27,750 --> 02:15:26,320
who cares

3309
02:15:29,669 --> 02:15:27,760
you know one guy one friend of mine said

3310
02:15:31,830 --> 02:15:29,679
i don't care if the klingons invade and

3311
02:15:33,510 --> 02:15:31,840
star trek's real you know i've got a job

3312
02:15:35,910 --> 02:15:33,520
to do and i got you know mow the

3313
02:15:37,589 --> 02:15:35,920
backyard and you know clean my car you

3314
02:15:39,990 --> 02:15:37,599
know they just you know so a lot of

3315
02:15:42,550 --> 02:15:40,000
people just don't care about this

3316
02:15:44,870 --> 02:15:42,560
but so it's easier than people think to

3317
02:15:46,550 --> 02:15:44,880
hide huge secrets you know the germans

3318
02:15:47,669 --> 02:15:46,560
learned you just hide things in plain

3319
02:15:49,589 --> 02:15:47,679
sight

3320
02:15:51,669 --> 02:15:49,599
you know i mean all these ufos flying

3321
02:15:53,189 --> 02:15:51,679
around you know no one in the government

3322
02:15:54,950 --> 02:15:53,199
or you know the

3323
02:15:56,629 --> 02:15:54,960
louisando or chris mellon they never

3324
02:15:58,310 --> 02:15:56,639
mentioned the millions

3325
02:16:00,550 --> 02:15:58,320
i think it's in the millions

3326
02:16:02,229 --> 02:16:00,560
of reports by civilian and military

3327
02:16:03,990 --> 02:16:02,239
pilots

3328
02:16:06,310 --> 02:16:04,000
now recently chris mellon came out you

3329
02:16:07,669 --> 02:16:06,320
know oh military pilots the government's

3330
02:16:11,030 --> 02:16:07,679
not listening to them

3331
02:16:13,430 --> 02:16:11,040
well that was news 60 years ago

3332
02:16:16,870 --> 02:16:13,440
so this is what i'm trying to say

3333
02:16:19,189 --> 02:16:16,880
they're just rehashing old techniques

3334
02:16:23,189 --> 02:16:19,199
in a to a public that is slowly waking

3335
02:16:25,189 --> 02:16:23,199
up and they are especially young people

3336
02:16:28,390 --> 02:16:25,199
now uh if

3337
02:16:32,230 --> 02:16:28,400
we go back and because of your uh

3338
02:16:33,669 --> 02:16:32,240
uh political uh upbringing and lifestyle

3339
02:16:35,349 --> 02:16:33,679
um

3340
02:16:39,270 --> 02:16:35,359
the

3341
02:16:41,669 --> 02:16:39,280
urban legend i'm gonna go with that

3342
02:16:44,549 --> 02:16:41,679
let's go with urban legend in the ufo

3343
02:16:47,110 --> 02:16:44,559
community about eisenhower

3344
02:16:47,990 --> 02:16:47,120
and and treaties uh

3345
02:16:49,509 --> 02:16:48,000
uh

3346
02:16:50,629 --> 02:16:49,519
you could even mention like project

3347
02:16:51,750 --> 02:16:50,639
serpo

3348
02:16:55,589 --> 02:16:51,760
um

3349
02:16:58,709 --> 02:16:55,599
an an interaction with extraterrestrials

3350
02:17:01,509 --> 02:16:58,719
uh that goes back a long ways

3351
02:17:02,709 --> 02:17:01,519
and there has been not only sharing of

3352
02:17:05,030 --> 02:17:02,719
information

3353
02:17:06,549 --> 02:17:05,040
but a mutual cooperation that has gone

3354
02:17:09,429 --> 02:17:06,559
on for years

3355
02:17:12,070 --> 02:17:09,439
how much now eisenhower being a general

3356
02:17:13,349 --> 02:17:12,080
and of course a president had a unique

3357
02:17:16,309 --> 02:17:13,359
position

3358
02:17:17,830 --> 02:17:16,319
of knowledge of uh

3359
02:17:20,230 --> 02:17:17,840
the department of defense and their

3360
02:17:23,030 --> 02:17:20,240
knowledge of course and then the

3361
02:17:26,070 --> 02:17:23,040
knowledge that you acquire as president

3362
02:17:28,469 --> 02:17:26,080
how much of that is based in reality

3363
02:17:29,830 --> 02:17:28,479
and would that treaty and that

3364
02:17:31,509 --> 02:17:29,840
cooperation

3365
02:17:34,230 --> 02:17:31,519
be passed on

3366
02:17:36,790 --> 02:17:34,240
from administration to administration

3367
02:17:40,469 --> 02:17:36,800
all the way through to obama and and

3368
02:17:45,589 --> 02:17:43,030
well i'll quote my dad

3369
02:17:47,349 --> 02:17:45,599
and he and i had a big

3370
02:17:49,270 --> 02:17:47,359
discussion about presidential elections

3371
02:17:50,790 --> 02:17:49,280
and how corrupt they are and he said

3372
02:17:52,709 --> 02:17:50,800
look

3373
02:17:55,589 --> 02:17:52,719
they are transient

3374
02:17:57,270 --> 02:17:55,599
custodians of the status quo

3375
02:17:59,429 --> 02:17:57,280
and there you know and i'm not the first

3376
02:18:01,349 --> 02:17:59,439
one to say greer and everybody else

3377
02:18:02,790 --> 02:18:01,359
said it too you know they're middle

3378
02:18:05,589 --> 02:18:02,800
managers

3379
02:18:06,870 --> 02:18:05,599
some are read into some of the ufo file

3380
02:18:09,110 --> 02:18:06,880
some aren't

3381
02:18:10,790 --> 02:18:09,120
uh all have their arms twisted and they

3382
02:18:13,750 --> 02:18:10,800
all have a gun to their head either

3383
02:18:16,070 --> 02:18:13,760
physically or you know in

3384
02:18:17,669 --> 02:18:16,080
you know whatever and so

3385
02:18:19,190 --> 02:18:17,679
they're they're very compromised

3386
02:18:21,750 --> 02:18:19,200
individuals they don't have all this

3387
02:18:23,830 --> 02:18:21,760
power that people think they do

3388
02:18:25,030 --> 02:18:23,840
uh the commander chief you know the navy

3389
02:18:26,309 --> 02:18:25,040
the marines they answer to the

3390
02:18:30,389 --> 02:18:26,319
constitution

3391
02:18:31,750 --> 02:18:30,399
republic not a democracy democracy is

3392
02:18:33,509 --> 02:18:31,760
mob rule

3393
02:18:35,349 --> 02:18:33,519
you know it's it's like

3394
02:18:37,190 --> 02:18:35,359
so the navy and marines um that's

3395
02:18:39,910 --> 02:18:37,200
another reason my dad was very keen he

3396
02:18:42,709 --> 02:18:39,920
was you know a marine and a naval

3397
02:18:44,309 --> 02:18:42,719
serviceman world war ii and korea

3398
02:18:46,309 --> 02:18:44,319
you know and

3399
02:18:48,309 --> 02:18:46,319
they are beholden to the constitution

3400
02:18:49,990 --> 02:18:48,319
which represents the american people the

3401
02:18:52,150 --> 02:18:50,000
army and the air force and probably the

3402
02:18:55,830 --> 02:18:52,160
space force are beholden to a

3403
02:19:00,309 --> 02:18:58,389
and so that's a difference

3404
02:19:02,230 --> 02:19:00,319
i believe that eisenhower was given a

3405
02:19:04,230 --> 02:19:02,240
hobson's choice

3406
02:19:07,110 --> 02:19:04,240
uh in the greater

3407
02:19:09,990 --> 02:19:07,120
treaty in the 50s uh i think the the

3408
02:19:11,429 --> 02:19:10,000
word is there were three e.t groups

3409
02:19:12,790 --> 02:19:11,439
um

3410
02:19:14,870 --> 02:19:12,800
there's been a lot of deception in

3411
02:19:16,790 --> 02:19:14,880
skullduggery uh

3412
02:19:17,750 --> 02:19:16,800
probably forever you know thousands of

3413
02:19:19,270 --> 02:19:17,760
years

3414
02:19:21,509 --> 02:19:19,280
you know uh there's

3415
02:19:24,309 --> 02:19:21,519
a lot of positive ets but but a lot of

3416
02:19:26,070 --> 02:19:24,319
the negative negative ones they pose as

3417
02:19:28,150 --> 02:19:26,080
positive and they're like why don't we

3418
02:19:29,990 --> 02:19:28,160
help you with their spirituality or it's

3419
02:19:32,150 --> 02:19:30,000
a choice and you could take the weapons

3420
02:19:34,150 --> 02:19:32,160
i don't think ike had a choice in any of

3421
02:19:35,990 --> 02:19:34,160
the three groups i think they were all

3422
02:19:38,309 --> 02:19:36,000
on cahoots together

3423
02:19:40,790 --> 02:19:38,319
there's some you know

3424
02:19:41,669 --> 02:19:40,800
esoteric evidence for that that suggests

3425
02:19:47,349 --> 02:19:41,679
that

3426
02:19:49,030 --> 02:19:47,359
kennedy was sworn into office but the

3427
02:19:51,190 --> 02:19:49,040
military industrial complex because he

3428
02:19:53,110 --> 02:19:51,200
knew alan dulles and probably my

3429
02:19:55,030 --> 02:19:53,120
grandfather and rockefeller and a bunch

3430
02:19:57,349 --> 02:19:55,040
of those guys you know they were either

3431
02:19:58,790 --> 02:19:57,359
on mj-12 in the late 50s or they were

3432
02:19:59,910 --> 02:19:58,800
close to it

3433
02:20:02,070 --> 02:19:59,920
and they were like

3434
02:20:04,710 --> 02:20:02,080
we rule the rules

3435
02:20:05,910 --> 02:20:04,720
because we have all the bankers

3436
02:20:07,670 --> 02:20:05,920
and that's what the melon family is

3437
02:20:09,270 --> 02:20:07,680
we're a banking family

3438
02:20:10,870 --> 02:20:09,280
they had the money they had the power

3439
02:20:12,950 --> 02:20:10,880
they had they could buy and sell

3440
02:20:14,950 --> 02:20:12,960
congressmen and senators on capitol hill

3441
02:20:17,030 --> 02:20:14,960
and here comes a president

3442
02:20:19,030 --> 02:20:17,040
who says you know i'm gonna come to area

3443
02:20:20,710 --> 02:20:19,040
51 groom lake with the first army out of

3444
02:20:22,630 --> 02:20:20,720
colorado and i'm going to shut this

3445
02:20:24,710 --> 02:20:22,640
thing down and there's a document that

3446
02:20:26,389 --> 02:20:24,720
says so i believe it

3447
02:20:28,309 --> 02:20:26,399
and they they were like okay we'll give

3448
02:20:30,150 --> 02:20:28,319
you a thin report

3449
02:20:32,070 --> 02:20:30,160
and for some reason you know ike had a

3450
02:20:33,750 --> 02:20:32,080
couple strokes

3451
02:20:35,990 --> 02:20:33,760
people forget that

3452
02:20:38,550 --> 02:20:36,000
and he was like okay chain of command is

3453
02:20:40,070 --> 02:20:38,560
restored i'm okay with it but then

3454
02:20:42,389 --> 02:20:40,080
i think he briefed kennedy remember

3455
02:20:45,030 --> 02:20:42,399
kennedy was on i in world war ii under

3456
02:20:47,590 --> 02:20:45,040
forestall so he was read in on the ufo

3457
02:20:48,710 --> 02:20:47,600
file oh yeah

3458
02:20:50,309 --> 02:20:48,720
oh yes

3459
02:20:51,750 --> 02:20:50,319
you know just like my grandfather and

3460
02:20:53,990 --> 02:20:51,760
alan dulles they were all red in you

3461
02:20:55,590 --> 02:20:54,000
know those guys so he knew all

3462
02:20:57,270 --> 02:20:55,600
throughout his young life as a

3463
02:20:59,270 --> 02:20:57,280
congressman and a senator

3464
02:21:01,750 --> 02:20:59,280
he knew his part of the ufo file and

3465
02:21:03,750 --> 02:21:01,760
that's part of the reason he was killed

3466
02:21:06,309 --> 02:21:03,760
it was a million reasons but you know

3467
02:21:08,950 --> 02:21:06,319
the nazi aerospace scientists

3468
02:21:10,950 --> 02:21:08,960
in huntsville and everywhere else they

3469
02:21:12,150 --> 02:21:10,960
wanted kennedy dead too because they

3470
02:21:13,510 --> 02:21:12,160
didn't want cooperation with the

3471
02:21:14,870 --> 02:21:13,520
russians they hated the russians the

3472
02:21:17,190 --> 02:21:14,880
nazis

3473
02:21:19,670 --> 02:21:17,200
and uh they didn't want the ufo file

3474
02:21:21,349 --> 02:21:19,680
getting out any part of it

3475
02:21:23,910 --> 02:21:21,359
and you know you've got the texas oil

3476
02:21:26,230 --> 02:21:23,920
men and lbj and james hamilton and alan

3477
02:21:27,510 --> 02:21:26,240
dulles you know they all it's who didn't

3478
02:21:29,670 --> 02:21:27,520
want to kill kennedy is the better

3479
02:21:31,750 --> 02:21:29,680
question well when he that

3480
02:21:35,590 --> 02:21:31,760
the one line in

3481
02:21:37,670 --> 02:21:35,600
in one of his speeches uh to this day

3482
02:21:40,150 --> 02:21:37,680
i'm just like dude what are you saying

3483
02:21:43,030 --> 02:21:40,160
when he said you know uh you know secret

3484
02:21:44,790 --> 02:21:43,040
societies and secret handshakes i'm like

3485
02:21:46,150 --> 02:21:44,800
dude what are you doing

3486
02:21:49,030 --> 02:21:46,160
i mean

3487
02:21:53,190 --> 02:21:49,040
you don't need to go there and and he

3488
02:21:55,510 --> 02:21:53,200
was obviously uh against the system

3489
02:21:57,510 --> 02:21:55,520
and there's too many uh parts in the

3490
02:21:58,389 --> 02:21:57,520
system that you know you're never gonna

3491
02:22:00,950 --> 02:21:58,399
break

3492
02:22:03,590 --> 02:22:00,960
and and they cooperate with each other

3493
02:22:05,750 --> 02:22:03,600
which takes me to this

3494
02:22:09,110 --> 02:22:05,760
uh we can look at you know the gimbal

3495
02:22:12,150 --> 02:22:09,120
the go fast and you know the tic tac

3496
02:22:14,389 --> 02:22:12,160
videos as as one thing

3497
02:22:17,830 --> 02:22:14,399
but there is

3498
02:22:21,590 --> 02:22:17,840
so much talk about the holloman air

3499
02:22:23,190 --> 02:22:21,600
force base uh film uh which is uh

3500
02:22:26,630 --> 02:22:23,200
purported to exist

3501
02:22:29,910 --> 02:22:26,640
uh we have film from roswell that is

3502
02:22:34,070 --> 02:22:29,920
purported to exist and i have no idea

3503
02:22:37,190 --> 02:22:34,080
how many thousands of gun camera footage

3504
02:22:40,550 --> 02:22:37,200
that the military is in possession of

3505
02:22:43,670 --> 02:22:40,560
but if disclosure happens

3506
02:22:46,550 --> 02:22:43,680
do you expect like the holloman

3507
02:22:48,150 --> 02:22:46,560
you know reels of film to be presented

3508
02:22:49,590 --> 02:22:48,160
to the public

3509
02:22:51,510 --> 02:22:49,600
maybe some of that i mean i've heard

3510
02:22:53,349 --> 02:22:51,520
there's millions of hours of footage

3511
02:22:54,950 --> 02:22:53,359
sure and i've talked to pilots who said

3512
02:22:57,670 --> 02:22:54,960
this tic-tac thing is ridiculous we've

3513
02:23:00,630 --> 02:22:57,680
been citing uh ufos you know our gun

3514
02:23:02,469 --> 02:23:00,640
cameras you know since you know korea

3515
02:23:04,710 --> 02:23:02,479
so i mean it's nonsense and then of

3516
02:23:05,750 --> 02:23:04,720
course world war ii the foo fighters

3517
02:23:07,190 --> 02:23:05,760
um

3518
02:23:09,190 --> 02:23:07,200
you know i i think

3519
02:23:10,870 --> 02:23:09,200
where we're headed is this kind of

3520
02:23:13,190 --> 02:23:10,880
disclosure that's

3521
02:23:15,270 --> 02:23:13,200
uh very favorable to the military

3522
02:23:17,190 --> 02:23:15,280
industrial complex you're gonna live

3523
02:23:19,990 --> 02:23:17,200
this you know have electric tesla cars

3524
02:23:22,790 --> 02:23:20,000
and hoverboards and you know this

3525
02:23:24,790 --> 02:23:22,800
great technology but you know

3526
02:23:26,870 --> 02:23:24,800
listen to elon musk and put a chip you

3527
02:23:29,030 --> 02:23:26,880
know behind your ear you know and

3528
02:23:30,389 --> 02:23:29,040
they're gonna you know the whole world

3529
02:23:32,230 --> 02:23:30,399
is fascist

3530
02:23:34,710 --> 02:23:32,240
i mean every country you mess with the

3531
02:23:36,230 --> 02:23:34,720
police or the government in any country

3532
02:23:37,750 --> 02:23:36,240
you're going to end up dead or in jail

3533
02:23:41,830 --> 02:23:37,760
for the rest of your life

3534
02:23:44,309 --> 02:23:41,840
you know this this secrecy

3535
02:23:45,349 --> 02:23:44,319
is so vast and so powerful it is so

3536
02:23:47,910 --> 02:23:45,359
toxic

3537
02:23:48,870 --> 02:23:47,920
for the world and and for america

3538
02:23:50,630 --> 02:23:48,880
you know

3539
02:23:52,070 --> 02:23:50,640
i want to mention one thing before you

3540
02:23:53,190 --> 02:23:52,080
know because we were on the last few

3541
02:23:55,510 --> 02:23:53,200
minutes

3542
02:23:58,150 --> 02:23:55,520
um you know my grandfather paul nellen

3543
02:24:01,030 --> 02:23:58,160
was oss in world war ii

3544
02:24:02,950 --> 02:24:01,040
i've been told throughout the decades by

3545
02:24:04,630 --> 02:24:02,960
people you know close to my dad and

3546
02:24:06,870 --> 02:24:04,640
military people they're like you realize

3547
02:24:08,630 --> 02:24:06,880
the melon family there's only about 130

3548
02:24:10,070 --> 02:24:08,640
of us alive at any given time we're not

3549
02:24:12,550 --> 02:24:10,080
a big family

3550
02:24:13,670 --> 02:24:12,560
but there's been 40 melons

3551
02:24:15,030 --> 02:24:13,680
or more

3552
02:24:17,030 --> 02:24:15,040
including my grandfather and chris

3553
02:24:19,590 --> 02:24:17,040
mellon you know in

3554
02:24:21,510 --> 02:24:19,600
the you know military intelligence or

3555
02:24:24,550 --> 02:24:21,520
you know they call it civilian but you

3556
02:24:27,510 --> 02:24:24,560
know cia's its own entity

3557
02:24:31,190 --> 02:24:27,520
you know that's a lot for a small family

3558
02:24:32,950 --> 02:24:31,200
so when chris mellon came out in 2017

3559
02:24:34,790 --> 02:24:32,960
that was not a happenstance they just

3560
02:24:38,309 --> 02:24:34,800
didn't call him out of retirement he's

3561
02:24:39,910 --> 02:24:38,319
like he was when was he 60 back then 61.

3562
02:24:41,270 --> 02:24:39,920
you know there's a reason they picked a

3563
02:24:43,270 --> 02:24:41,280
melon

3564
02:24:45,270 --> 02:24:43,280
and i want your listeners to know that

3565
02:24:47,030 --> 02:24:45,280
because our family has been

3566
02:24:48,710 --> 02:24:47,040
in deep yogurt with the national

3567
02:24:50,550 --> 02:24:48,720
security state going back to world war

3568
02:24:52,950 --> 02:24:50,560
ii and you know we have nothing but

3569
02:24:54,790 --> 02:24:52,960
robber barons and other people and yes

3570
02:24:57,030 --> 02:24:54,800
we have had a lot of philanthropy and

3571
02:24:59,030 --> 02:24:57,040
there's the national gallery of art and

3572
02:25:01,910 --> 02:24:59,040
my grandfather donated the east wing but

3573
02:25:03,510 --> 02:25:01,920
these are halos to put over people's

3574
02:25:06,070 --> 02:25:03,520
heads

3575
02:25:07,990 --> 02:25:06,080
remember our duality

3576
02:25:09,590 --> 02:25:08,000
all human beings we have this duality of

3577
02:25:11,510 --> 02:25:09,600
it you know you can do

3578
02:25:13,670 --> 02:25:11,520
spend your life doing things that are

3579
02:25:15,190 --> 02:25:13,680
not good for the american people but is

3580
02:25:17,349 --> 02:25:15,200
good for big business and banks and

3581
02:25:19,910 --> 02:25:17,359
secrecy in the military but then you

3582
02:25:21,910 --> 02:25:19,920
know and donated an art museum because

3583
02:25:23,510 --> 02:25:21,920
you want the public to see

3584
02:25:25,590 --> 02:25:23,520
vast art collection it's a good thing to

3585
02:25:26,710 --> 02:25:25,600
do you know this everyone's like you

3586
02:25:29,110 --> 02:25:26,720
know

3587
02:25:30,309 --> 02:25:29,120
not evil and like hitler and everything

3588
02:25:31,990 --> 02:25:30,319
it's just like

3589
02:25:33,750 --> 02:25:32,000
you know i'm very i'm a conservative

3590
02:25:35,830 --> 02:25:33,760
hawk and i'm you know i

3591
02:25:38,389 --> 02:25:35,840
toe the line of secrecy but i'm gonna do

3592
02:25:41,270 --> 02:25:38,399
this really nice thing on the side you

3593
02:25:42,710 --> 02:25:41,280
know but it's also kind of a distraction

3594
02:25:44,469 --> 02:25:42,720
you know everyone's like oh your

3595
02:25:46,230 --> 02:25:44,479
grandfather was so generous and i'm like

3596
02:25:48,870 --> 02:25:46,240
you don't know what he was like and the

3597
02:25:50,630 --> 02:25:48,880
guy was almost a nazi

3598
02:25:53,030 --> 02:25:50,640
you know so i want to make

3599
02:25:55,349 --> 02:25:53,040
that very clear that this

3600
02:25:58,389 --> 02:25:55,359
melon thing you know the melon family is

3601
02:26:00,710 --> 02:25:58,399
very quiet until now

3602
02:26:02,790 --> 02:26:00,720
and that's when chris came out and i you

3603
02:26:03,910 --> 02:26:02,800
know after four years of trying to reach

3604
02:26:05,910 --> 02:26:03,920
out and help him and everything like

3605
02:26:08,150 --> 02:26:05,920
that and i knew we were going separate

3606
02:26:09,990 --> 02:26:08,160
ways and now i am

3607
02:26:12,790 --> 02:26:10,000
you know these committee of 300 families

3608
02:26:13,590 --> 02:26:12,800
the rockefellers the duponts the morgans

3609
02:26:19,349 --> 02:26:13,600
you know

3610
02:26:21,110 --> 02:26:19,359
95 of them have no idea what's going on

3611
02:26:22,710 --> 02:26:21,120
and the five percent that do

3612
02:26:24,389 --> 02:26:22,720
they're not talking about it

3613
02:26:26,550 --> 02:26:24,399
as far as i know i'm the only one to

3614
02:26:28,550 --> 02:26:26,560
come forward with the alternative view

3615
02:26:30,150 --> 02:26:28,560
of this from you know alternative from

3616
02:26:32,469 --> 02:26:30,160
the us military

3617
02:26:35,910 --> 02:26:32,479
cia or or the us government i mean i'm

3618
02:26:38,710 --> 02:26:35,920
just furious now um

3619
02:26:41,830 --> 02:26:38,720
well and and staying on that uh in in

3620
02:26:42,790 --> 02:26:41,840
our brief few minutes that we have left

3621
02:26:46,710 --> 02:26:42,800
um

3622
02:26:48,790 --> 02:26:46,720
the narrative that i have seen repeated

3623
02:26:50,309 --> 02:26:48,800
over the last four years

3624
02:26:53,750 --> 02:26:50,319
is threat

3625
02:26:56,070 --> 02:26:53,760
and it's played out in the media it it's

3626
02:26:57,510 --> 02:26:56,080
come from the pentagon the pentagon

3627
02:26:59,990 --> 02:26:57,520
spokespeople

3628
02:27:01,349 --> 02:27:00,000
um it's there it's senate intelligence

3629
02:27:03,590 --> 02:27:01,359
committee

3630
02:27:04,389 --> 02:27:03,600
threat threat threat

3631
02:27:06,070 --> 02:27:04,399
i

3632
02:27:09,110 --> 02:27:06,080
don't know

3633
02:27:12,550 --> 02:27:09,120
i i i'm pretty sure i haven't seen any

3634
02:27:15,110 --> 02:27:12,560
plasma weapons shooting up cities

3635
02:27:16,630 --> 02:27:15,120
right i haven't seen

3636
02:27:19,030 --> 02:27:16,640
not to say that there was a negative

3637
02:27:20,630 --> 02:27:19,040
et's there's negative everything

3638
02:27:22,870 --> 02:27:20,640
um

3639
02:27:25,510 --> 02:27:22,880
but i haven't seen that

3640
02:27:28,870 --> 02:27:25,520
why would they take

3641
02:27:30,389 --> 02:27:28,880
that presentation is it for money is it

3642
02:27:33,190 --> 02:27:30,399
for budgeting

3643
02:27:36,710 --> 02:27:33,200
why put the threat label

3644
02:27:38,469 --> 02:27:36,720
on on uaps and ufos

3645
02:27:40,710 --> 02:27:38,479
because it's business

3646
02:27:42,710 --> 02:27:40,720
remember that technology is in our

3647
02:27:44,550 --> 02:27:42,720
medical you know ultrasound and

3648
02:27:46,550 --> 02:27:44,560
everything all this et back engineered

3649
02:27:48,630 --> 02:27:46,560
technology it's all through our society

3650
02:27:51,190 --> 02:27:48,640
you and i are talking on laptops and

3651
02:27:53,349 --> 02:27:51,200
through zoom and everything this is all

3652
02:27:55,429 --> 02:27:53,359
productized so it's big business it's

3653
02:27:57,510 --> 02:27:55,439
big medical it's big pharma

3654
02:27:59,670 --> 02:27:57,520
you know and you know there's no money

3655
02:28:01,750 --> 02:27:59,680
to be made off of a public that's

3656
02:28:03,510 --> 02:28:01,760
healthy you know cancer

3657
02:28:05,590 --> 02:28:03,520
they have med beds that can cure cancer

3658
02:28:07,670 --> 02:28:05,600
i'm absolutely sure of that

3659
02:28:08,550 --> 02:28:07,680
and chris and i agreed on that one thing

3660
02:28:10,150 --> 02:28:08,560
that the

3661
02:28:11,750 --> 02:28:10,160
you know the top secret med beds should

3662
02:28:14,070 --> 02:28:11,760
be let out but they're going to give us

3663
02:28:16,710 --> 02:28:14,080
you know version one whereas you know on

3664
02:28:17,910 --> 02:28:16,720
the inside they have version 1000

3665
02:28:19,830 --> 02:28:17,920
and so

3666
02:28:22,469 --> 02:28:19,840
you know at the top of society you know

3667
02:28:24,870 --> 02:28:22,479
these royals i've met the queen three

3668
02:28:27,030 --> 02:28:24,880
times these people

3669
02:28:28,790 --> 02:28:27,040
money is meaningless to them they have

3670
02:28:30,550 --> 02:28:28,800
trillions

3671
02:28:31,910 --> 02:28:30,560
you know the committee of 300 families

3672
02:28:33,990 --> 02:28:31,920
what are we collectively worth the

3673
02:28:36,230 --> 02:28:34,000
united states trillions

3674
02:28:39,190 --> 02:28:36,240
it's meaningless

3675
02:28:41,670 --> 02:28:39,200
and so it's about control power and

3676
02:28:44,790 --> 02:28:41,680
secrecy it's the ultra you know

3677
02:28:45,830 --> 02:28:44,800
aphrodisiac power and secrecy

3678
02:28:46,790 --> 02:28:45,840
together

3679
02:28:48,309 --> 02:28:46,800
you know

3680
02:28:50,070 --> 02:28:48,319
there's definitely e.t at the mix you

3681
02:28:51,590 --> 02:28:50,080
can you can i've talked to people you

3682
02:28:53,510 --> 02:28:51,600
know military people and they say yeah

3683
02:28:54,469 --> 02:28:53,520
et's in charge if you go all the way to

3684
02:28:56,950 --> 02:28:54,479
the top

3685
02:28:59,030 --> 02:28:56,960
e.t is in charge

3686
02:29:02,070 --> 02:28:59,040
and you know it's it's obvious we've

3687
02:29:05,429 --> 02:29:02,080
been scammed and enslaved and you know

3688
02:29:07,030 --> 02:29:05,439
alcohol religion you know all this stuff

3689
02:29:12,550 --> 02:29:07,040
uh you know

3690
02:29:14,309 --> 02:29:12,560
and the debt slavery it's it's just not

3691
02:29:15,670 --> 02:29:14,319
freedom at all americans are sort of

3692
02:29:17,590 --> 02:29:15,680
free-range

3693
02:29:19,270 --> 02:29:17,600
debt slaves you know and we're given

3694
02:29:21,750 --> 02:29:19,280
more freedoms but

3695
02:29:23,270 --> 02:29:21,760
not really we can't go to area 51 look

3696
02:29:26,150 --> 02:29:23,280
at those people who tried to storm area

3697
02:29:28,230 --> 02:29:26,160
51 they would have been slaughtered

3698
02:29:30,950 --> 02:29:28,240
i almost

3699
02:29:32,150 --> 02:29:30,960
weekend

3700
02:29:34,230 --> 02:29:32,160
and uh

3701
02:29:35,590 --> 02:29:34,240
i thought about it on friday morning i

3702
02:29:38,150 --> 02:29:35,600
was just gonna

3703
02:29:42,469 --> 02:29:38,160
jump in my jeep and and go to the gates

3704
02:29:43,830 --> 02:29:42,479
and and i i i actually had that planned

3705
02:29:45,910 --> 02:29:43,840
and the only reason why it didn't happen

3706
02:29:47,990 --> 02:29:45,920
was halloween i had to be back here uh

3707
02:29:51,190 --> 02:29:48,000
for some stuff yesterday but i almost

3708
02:29:53,429 --> 02:29:51,200
went to area 51. um

3709
02:29:54,550 --> 02:29:53,439
let me ask you another question though

3710
02:29:55,830 --> 02:29:54,560
um

3711
02:29:58,070 --> 02:29:55,840
recently

3712
02:30:01,030 --> 02:29:58,080
the intelligent

3713
02:30:03,190 --> 02:30:01,040
intelligence budget was passed

3714
02:30:06,150 --> 02:30:03,200
and in that

3715
02:30:07,670 --> 02:30:06,160
uh there were five or six

3716
02:30:10,790 --> 02:30:07,680
breakouts

3717
02:30:11,990 --> 02:30:10,800
about uh the uap task force and it being

3718
02:30:15,110 --> 02:30:12,000
renamed

3719
02:30:17,590 --> 02:30:15,120
and what it was going to do

3720
02:30:20,309 --> 02:30:17,600
in the scheduling of that

3721
02:30:21,830 --> 02:30:20,319
there were a couple of very interesting

3722
02:30:24,469 --> 02:30:21,840
uh

3723
02:30:26,710 --> 02:30:24,479
paragraphs and it was it was the words

3724
02:30:29,270 --> 02:30:26,720
that were used john

3725
02:30:31,270 --> 02:30:29,280
and one of them was

3726
02:30:32,870 --> 02:30:31,280
i couldn't believe they said this

3727
02:30:34,950 --> 02:30:32,880
that

3728
02:30:38,710 --> 02:30:34,960
in the events

3729
02:30:40,469 --> 02:30:38,720
of a crashed uap

3730
02:30:41,990 --> 02:30:40,479
that the debris

3731
02:30:45,510 --> 02:30:42,000
and the crash

3732
02:30:47,110 --> 02:30:45,520
would be collected and reported

3733
02:30:49,510 --> 02:30:47,120
right

3734
02:30:51,349 --> 02:30:49,520
that's in the budget

3735
02:30:52,230 --> 02:30:51,359
did could you ever

3736
02:30:54,230 --> 02:30:52,240
yeah

3737
02:30:57,190 --> 02:30:54,240
that's capitol hill for you

3738
02:30:59,510 --> 02:30:57,200
you know it is very odd i i don't know

3739
02:31:02,469 --> 02:30:59,520
why but um

3740
02:31:04,630 --> 02:31:02,479
if i had to make an educated guess

3741
02:31:07,190 --> 02:31:04,640
it's all about perception management and

3742
02:31:10,389 --> 02:31:07,200
so what i think they would do is

3743
02:31:12,710 --> 02:31:10,399
uh they get a one unmanned uap out there

3744
02:31:15,030 --> 02:31:12,720
you know and they crash it

3745
02:31:17,429 --> 02:31:15,040
and you know they make a big stink on it

3746
02:31:18,469 --> 02:31:17,439
and cnn you know news media is all in

3747
02:31:20,870 --> 02:31:18,479
cahoots

3748
02:31:23,429 --> 02:31:20,880
with the deep state you know we don't

3749
02:31:25,190 --> 02:31:23,439
have a free press and then you know

3750
02:31:27,110 --> 02:31:25,200
and they'll say look it's lockheed

3751
02:31:29,190 --> 02:31:27,120
martin it's classified but look there's

3752
02:31:31,910 --> 02:31:29,200
no one in it you know there's no et's

3753
02:31:33,349 --> 02:31:31,920
you know go go back to school go back to

3754
02:31:35,910 --> 02:31:33,359
work you know

3755
02:31:38,309 --> 02:31:35,920
don't worry about it and so that's my

3756
02:31:40,230 --> 02:31:38,319
guess i mean i'm

3757
02:31:43,429 --> 02:31:40,240
once you're a conspiracy researcher you

3758
02:31:45,670 --> 02:31:43,439
just died your wool has died

3759
02:31:47,110 --> 02:31:45,680
and you know it just makes sense to me

3760
02:31:49,110 --> 02:31:47,120
that they

3761
02:31:51,750 --> 02:31:49,120
they'll stick to this narrative but

3762
02:31:54,550 --> 02:31:51,760
everything that's allowed inside that

3763
02:31:56,070 --> 02:31:54,560
you know the uap task force book you

3764
02:31:57,990 --> 02:31:56,080
know you could do anything you want in

3765
02:31:58,790 --> 02:31:58,000
that as long as it doesn't stray into

3766
02:32:00,150 --> 02:31:58,800
other

3767
02:32:02,070 --> 02:32:00,160
because they're distracting you from

3768
02:32:04,550 --> 02:32:02,080
other projects like wait what's that

3769
02:32:06,469 --> 02:32:04,560
five mile long cigar silver cigar thing

3770
02:32:07,590 --> 02:32:06,479
coming over la and it's like don't worry

3771
02:32:09,990 --> 02:32:07,600
about that

3772
02:32:11,670 --> 02:32:10,000
keep your mind on cnn the uap task force

3773
02:32:13,910 --> 02:32:11,680
you know and so it's all about

3774
02:32:15,990 --> 02:32:13,920
perception management you know look over

3775
02:32:18,550 --> 02:32:16,000
here you light a trash can on fire at a

3776
02:32:20,389 --> 02:32:18,560
party where are all eyes going to be

3777
02:32:22,309 --> 02:32:20,399
on that trash can you should be looking

3778
02:32:24,150 --> 02:32:22,319
in the opposite direction

3779
02:32:25,990 --> 02:32:24,160
an old intelligence guy told me that

3780
02:32:27,750 --> 02:32:26,000
he's like oh yeah man you know they'll

3781
02:32:29,590 --> 02:32:27,760
let out something on the news every

3782
02:32:31,429 --> 02:32:29,600
distract everyone you should be looking

3783
02:32:33,190 --> 02:32:31,439
over here you know in west texas you

3784
02:32:35,349 --> 02:32:33,200
know what's that

3785
02:32:37,990 --> 02:32:35,359
purple giant purple you know glowing

3786
02:32:40,389 --> 02:32:38,000
ball you know over dallas oh that's not

3787
02:32:42,870 --> 02:32:40,399
important you know but marco rubio wants

3788
02:32:45,429 --> 02:32:42,880
to talk about uaps and you know

3789
02:32:47,990 --> 02:32:45,439
another person told me a military person

3790
02:32:49,510 --> 02:32:48,000
told me they don't give a

3791
02:32:51,830 --> 02:32:49,520
about all of us

3792
02:32:54,630 --> 02:32:51,840
talking about little gray man the grays

3793
02:32:57,110 --> 02:32:54,640
or whatever and crashed ufos

3794
02:32:59,030 --> 02:32:57,120
it's everything they've kept secret

3795
02:32:59,990 --> 02:32:59,040
in the national security state the dirty

3796
02:33:01,990 --> 02:33:00,000
laundry

3797
02:33:03,990 --> 02:33:02,000
that's what they want us distract you

3798
02:33:05,510 --> 02:33:04,000
from you know all the crap i'm talking

3799
02:33:07,590 --> 02:33:05,520
about i mean i don't have a lot of

3800
02:33:09,670 --> 02:33:07,600
credibility but you know it it's it

3801
02:33:11,510 --> 02:33:09,680
makes sense to me after a lifetime of

3802
02:33:13,990 --> 02:33:11,520
being exposed to it

3803
02:33:17,670 --> 02:33:14,000
they're just this whole thing

3804
02:33:19,670 --> 02:33:17,680
uap and you know chris mellon and marco

3805
02:33:21,590 --> 02:33:19,680
rubio and all that you know harry reid

3806
02:33:23,429 --> 02:33:21,600
and all that stuff that's all within a

3807
02:33:24,950 --> 02:33:23,439
very narrow playbook and they're

3808
02:33:27,670 --> 02:33:24,960
sticking to that it's like look over

3809
02:33:29,349 --> 02:33:27,680
here look the trash can's on fire

3810
02:33:30,950 --> 02:33:29,359
don't look over there

3811
02:33:32,870 --> 02:33:30,960
don't listen to catherine austin fists

3812
02:33:35,110 --> 02:33:32,880
or you know the other researchers in the

3813
02:33:37,830 --> 02:33:35,120
ufo field who are talking about all this

3814
02:33:38,950 --> 02:33:37,840
dirty laundry the bank fraud and

3815
02:33:40,790 --> 02:33:38,960
you know the american people going to be

3816
02:33:42,630 --> 02:33:40,800
pissed when they find out that that i

3817
02:33:45,030 --> 02:33:42,640
don't know 100 trillion has been stolen

3818
02:33:47,349 --> 02:33:45,040
from them since 1950

3819
02:33:51,110 --> 02:33:47,359
well they're really going to be upset if

3820
02:33:53,349 --> 02:33:51,120
they find out that we've had free energy

3821
02:33:56,309 --> 02:33:53,359
technology in our possession for 70

3822
02:33:58,230 --> 02:33:56,319
years yeah and no pollution right no

3823
02:34:00,550 --> 02:33:58,240
pollution starving

3824
02:34:03,030 --> 02:34:00,560
uh no one needs to starve on this planet

3825
02:34:05,270 --> 02:34:03,040
that's all somebody somewhere some but

3826
02:34:07,110 --> 02:34:05,280
jim maher said it i'm going to quote him

3827
02:34:09,349 --> 02:34:07,120
he says if there's a country starving

3828
02:34:11,990 --> 02:34:09,359
and dying genocide or whatever there's

3829
02:34:14,389 --> 02:34:12,000
probably a secret roundtable a secret

3830
02:34:17,510 --> 02:34:14,399
society somewhere who wants it that way

3831
02:34:19,750 --> 02:34:17,520
yeah yeah that's sad but it's that's the

3832
02:34:23,830 --> 02:34:19,760
truth of our world yeah he said that on

3833
02:34:26,150 --> 02:34:23,840
the show uh a few times and i miss him

3834
02:34:28,070 --> 02:34:26,160
i'm a very clean talker i i try to talk

3835
02:34:30,070 --> 02:34:28,080
plainly like he does you know he had a

3836
02:34:31,990 --> 02:34:30,080
great southern drawl i love it you know

3837
02:34:34,230 --> 02:34:32,000
but he said that and it's just there's

3838
02:34:37,190 --> 02:34:34,240
no truer words spoken you know that

3839
02:34:38,309 --> 02:34:37,200
injustice inequality poverty of this

3840
02:34:41,349 --> 02:34:38,319
world

3841
02:34:43,030 --> 02:34:41,359
is all by design i

3842
02:34:47,270 --> 02:34:43,040
20 years ago i wasn't sure but now i'm

3843
02:34:49,830 --> 02:34:47,280
i'm absolutely sure now do you think um

3844
02:34:52,230 --> 02:34:49,840
this is something i meant to get to way

3845
02:34:54,630 --> 02:34:52,240
earlier in the show

3846
02:34:56,830 --> 02:34:54,640
do you think that this conversation that

3847
02:35:00,710 --> 02:34:56,840
is happening right now out of

3848
02:35:03,190 --> 02:35:00,720
washington is because they know

3849
02:35:05,670 --> 02:35:03,200
of something that is about to happen i

3850
02:35:07,510 --> 02:35:05,680
don't know what that about to happen is

3851
02:35:09,429 --> 02:35:07,520
could be a lot of different things but

3852
02:35:13,110 --> 02:35:09,439
that they're trying to get out in front

3853
02:35:15,190 --> 02:35:13,120
of it because it's not in their control

3854
02:35:16,469 --> 02:35:15,200
and they know this so they need this

3855
02:35:19,270 --> 02:35:16,479
conversation

3856
02:35:21,429 --> 02:35:19,280
uh to be happening globally

3857
02:35:23,750 --> 02:35:21,439
yeah i think you you've hit the nail on

3858
02:35:25,590 --> 02:35:23,760
the proverbial head

3859
02:35:26,790 --> 02:35:25,600
um whether or not it's going to be you

3860
02:35:28,230 --> 02:35:26,800
know